Criminal Girls And Firefly’s Diary Are Coming To The West On Vita

By Ishaan . July 3, 2014 . 4:36pm

NIS America are bringing Criminal Girls and htol #NiQ: Firefly’s Diary to the West, the publisher announced at Anime Expo this afternoon.

 

Criminal Girls: Invite Only, the Vita version of Criminal Girls, will be released in Spring 2015 in both North America and Europe.

 

Meanwhile, Firefly’s Diary will be available this Fall as a download title in both regions as well.

 

Source: MiresuKun


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  • Combo

    Wow, I’d just about given up hope on Criminal Girls.

    Hope they don’t end up censoring it, since there’s some preeeetty racy stuff in there.

    • Eric Harris

      ofcourse they are going to censor it. Some of that sexualized spread leg “punish” scenes in vita games are just stupid though. I’m not sad to see those go.

      • Kumiko Akimoto

        Fanservice is never stupid

        • Warboss Aohd

          actually it’s almost ALWAYS stupid.

          if you need fanservice to sell a game, than you suck at game design and story telling.

          • Shinobikens

            No in Japan they know the market they’re selling to really well. If a company localizes a game like that the only people who truly want the game want the fanservice.

          • Shippoyasha

            Yes, but it’s a nice addition for the fans who like sexual content. Just because it’s a silly element doesn’t mean it should stop existing. Imagine if people said that about overt violence or cheeky gameplay features. Sure, they may be ‘silly’ and you can take them out, but it ruins the fun factor to defang a game and make it less risque. The modern gaming world already makes way too much concessions already. Niche games being targeted doesn’t make any sense to me.

          • Kumiko Akimoto

            If you think fanservice is always used as something to just to sell the game then you’d be heavily wrong.
            You can have fanservice and have a good plot, game design and have your game mechanics on point.

          • Warboss Aohd

            i said if you need to use it to SELL a game it’s stupid, if it adds to the plot or even gameplay, fine.

            Did the Fanservice here truly ADD anything here is the question? Did it really add something that was needed? Apparently not as it it was able to be censored and still function.

          • Kumiko Akimoto

            It didn’t detract anything from the gameplay or story did it? Is the game still fun to play even with it in the game and is the story at least tolerable even with the game.
            There’s a clear difference between having fanservice in a bad game and having fanservice that adds to the game mechanics or plot and fanservice that’s there to be there but doesn’t disturb the game mechanic or the plot.

          • Warboss Aohd

            i suppose that’s fair.

      • Bob Slim

        If that all go then what reason is it to buy the game, Its a fanservice game no buy for me if they censored it

      • http://gamesero.wordpress.com/ Arla

        If you think thats stupid than why the hell would you even consider criminal girls? Thats a large part of the appeal of the game. Its like bitching about the story in a story heavy game and being glad it was removed during localization because you think its stupid. Skip through it, or don’t play the game, but don’t defend the censorship because you don’t like the content.

        • Eric Harris

          because I like roguelikes? If I wanted fanservice I would be importing these games from Japan.

          • Shippoyasha

            Maybe they could have modes programmed in for those who want the gameplay only then. They don’t have to take the risque parts out entirely. Now there’s no option but to import for many people who don’t trust NISA to do this right.

          • Weeb

            You know there is tons of other roguelikes on the market right? You can easily ignore the ones that don’t cater to your tastes. It’s like being adamant on playing Senran Kagura because you enjoy beat em ups but want all the fanservice removed. It really makes no sense.

          • NeetTentaclesRiot

            It’s not even a roguelike

          • darke

            Then I recommend ‘rogue’. You can download it for free, compile it from source, and there’s plenty of # and @ action without any of that fan-service you don’t want.

      • Shinobikens

        This is the reason why NISA butchers the games with censorship. Without the punishment stuff you’ve lost the whole gimmick of the game

      • Shippoyasha

        I would disagree. I’d rather not see games get butchered and the game fans be called ‘extremists’ just because NISA is wants to keep justifying censoring their content.

    • Shinobikens

      NISA confirmed it’s censored. Punishment scenes were removed from the trailer. Game ruined don’t support this shit localization

      • http://gamesero.wordpress.com/ Arla

        That’s fucking ridiculous. I’m so glad NISA doesn’t touch any game I’m seriously interested in.

        • Shinobikens

          I’m pretty sure they only got the rights to CG because they’ve lost so many titles now. But they get something that I really wanted (god forbid a good company like XSEED get it) and they take the shit out that the actual fans of the game wanted

          • Herok♞

            Of course they have the rights to CG its their companies game to begin with

          • Shinobikens

            NISA doesn’t inherently have the rights to publish it in NA though. They have to get it okay’d

      • PlatinumMad

        Yes, remove the stuff the audience wants. Way to go NISA.
        If you want “bring titles to as many fans as possible” bring over dudebro crap, not otaku niche games.
        Goddamn this makes no sense.
        At least we still have XSEED and Aksys not being totally retarded.

        • Shinobikens

          XSEED is fucking based. Aksys while I love them hop on the DLC train and different game versions train to much, but I still love em

  • Eric Harris

    Thank you NISA.

  • DeathDias71

    Fantastic. Even more reasons to love my Vita.

  • Darkwing7

    Wow and i just imported LE of Hotaru no nikki ….. no regrets

  • Sentsuizan_93
  • http://linkapics.tumblr.com/ Linka

    Well I definitely expected the Guided Fate Paradox sequel (which they did confirm too at the panel, guys), and I expected Firefly’s Diary, but.

    I DEFINITELY did not expect Criminal Girls.

  • persona_yuji

    I don’t know much about Criminal Girls, but I am excited about Fiirefly’s Diary.

  • Duo Maxwell

    Kinda said that there won’t be a physical release of Hotaru no Nikki, but buying it regardless.

  • Eric Harris

    So this is a roguelike, but when you get into a battle it switches into a traditional style RPG battle, and you have a party of 4. Is that about right? I like the art style and the added elements to the roguelike make it seem like it will be kinda fun.

  • DesmaX

    Criminal Girls? I’m surprised, but it’s not something I would play.

  • http://www.segalization.com/ Kuronoa

    I’m more interested in Firefly’s Diary but may get both.

  • Cheesy12

    Nisa, Aksys, Xseed, and Atlus, saviors of the Vita.

    • AlphaSixNine

      They’re pretty much all I care about so yay. :)

    • echo78

      And Tecmo Koei.

      • Cheesy12

        You’re absolutely right, didn’t mean to forget them >_<

  • Kumiko Akimoto

    Yes yes ohh snap

  • Rose Spinoza

    Criminal Girls is definitely not my type of game, so I’ll pass on that. Firefly looks awesome though, so I’ll probably pick that one up .

  • PlatinumMad

    Eh, NISA will remove 60% of Criminal Girls.
    I am happy about Firefly’s Dairy, thought.

    • Jimmy Bump

      All thats left of criminal girls for the English release is the title screen.

      • darke

        Well I imagine the dungeon crawly parts will stay in; I don’t think there’s anything too objectionable in that. I can’t say I’m very hopeful the punishment game will get through in anything but a rather censored state, if it gets included at all.

  • http://mewisthebest.deviantart.com/ AnotherDeadArtist

    WAT WAT

    HOTARU NO NIKKI IS COMING?!

    IT REALLY IS?!

    MY FANART WAS NOT DONE IN VAIN. MY WISH HAS BEEN FULFILLED!

    Yayayayayayayay~

    • Sentsuizan_93

      You predicted the future! *o*/

  • AwayFromKeyboard

    NISA already stated that they’re gonna make cuts/alterations to broaden their audience. It’s gonna happen with Criminal Girls so don’t act surprised. Nobody at NISA better complain about sales, they’re essentially shooting themselves in the foot with the way they go about things. If it’s too risque for the Western audience then don’t try bringing it over. I’d rather not have the game then be handed a butchered mess

  • AlphaSixNine

    Eh… I don’t mind if they’re censoring some parts. I can understand that mainstream west is too faint heartened for this. lol

    My concern only is…
    Is Criminal Girls a physical release?

    • Shippoyasha

      That’s why they shouldn’t be censoring games anyway. These games are already going to be out of the radar for most gamers anyway. NISA shouldn’t be alienating their own fanbase.

      • AlphaSixNine

        I guess NISA thinks it might get on the mainstream media’s radar and will cause heavy controversy. I assume they don’t want that BS the mainstream media does. Especially at this time where “women in games” is annoyingly hot topic.They want to avoid this risk, I personally don’t want to hear maintream media blowing this out of proportions when they catch a whiff of it. Though i guess it will still run the risk either way lol

        But like I said. I’m fine either way. I can understand people who hates censoring and I respect their opinion. I can also see where NISA is coming from so I respect their decision as well.

        • Shippoyasha

          I just feel courting controversy with anyone is very weird, because there’s a certain niche that buys games from NISA to begin with. It’s just not a type of game like Mario or Zelda to put in front of a general gaming audience to begin with. Some games like Fireflys being mass appeal is understandable. But stuff like Criminal Girls is appealing precisely because it is so politically incorrect. So it just seems weird they won’t stand by that.

  • Ladius

    I’m really happy about Hotaru no Nikki, even if I imagined its localization was a given thanks to its small script.

    I really hope to see more games of this kind from NIS, I would also appreciate if they could bring us their visual novels, like Special Report Division or the upcoming Shin Hayarigami.

  • Weeb

    I’m gonna be cautious about criminal girls. NISA has really lost my trust over the past few years. Already got my copy of Firefly’s Dairy shipping so passing up the localization.

  • Laith Rem

    I think I am bound to buy Criminal Girl because it is an Imageepoch game and I love those.

  • Final Agent

    There is absolutely no reason to ‘bring it over to the west and try to appeal as many gamers as possible’ with Criminal Girls if doing so means censoring it. The appeal of it is it’s silly yet fun gameplay AND the racy shit that goes on in it. If it’s not your thing, you’re not gonna buy it. If censoring it would make it your thing, you’re STILL probably not gonna buy it.

    So I have to wonder, why are they even bothering…? This just makes no sense, why bring Criminal Girls over to the west at all just to censor half of what makes it what it is?

    • Shippoyasha

      It’s basically taking the fangs out of the risque package really. NISA needs to understand that people who want a pure experience are not radicals here. If they want to control the sexual content so much, then why not program it in so purists can unlock it and play the pure, original version? The way they self censor is ridiculous, but what’s worse is the way they justify it. Most game stores barely even have a Vita section to even show the games’ boxes on. And a lot of developers are doing digital releases to make risque game sales easier.

      • Rinkawa Erion

        And I thought only Japanese cersor prons…

        • Shippoyasha

          Not kidding, Japan does actually, though Japan censors violence/Yakuza content way more. Censorship everywhere just never makes sense. You’d think that’s why age-restrictions and warning labels exist. If it isn’t explicit, heavy handed banning style of censorship, it’s some type of chilling effects self censorship. It just seems to become more of a boondoggle as the years go by. Which is a damn shame.

          • darke

            After Monster Monpiece I’m kinda not interested in buying censored games if they’re cutting significant content.

            I don’t actually care about *what* the picture was, honestly I can’t even remember which monsters they were; but there was a strong sense of disappointment when I was happily going through and doing the irritating rubbing game to get a new image and… nothing changed.

            It’s completely dumb, but it did remove a lot of my interest in bothering to properly unlock all the images to see what they were; which I was otherwise going to do.

            I might grab the Japanese version if I ever feel the urge to play through it again.

  • Bkarsi

    Good of them to tell us it’s censored straight out of the gate, now I already know I won’t be buying it.

  • FlobotingIt

    Yayyyyy!!!! Firefly Diary looks so adorable… I really wanna play it!!!

    • Rinkawa Erion

      Adorable?
      *grins

    • http://www.unit03.net blackraen

      Adorable might not be the right word. For instance, there’s a trophy for when Mion dies 100 times. Most people get it about halfway through the game.

      • FlobotingIt

        You’re right, that’s not adorable…
        That’s freaking beautiful.

  • http://keiserone.tumblr.com/ KeiserOne

    Yaaaaaas! (at Firefly’s Diary of course)

  • DizzyGear

    Did i miss something? Did they confirm any censorship in Criminal Girls?

    Sucks htol #NiQ wont get a physical release though. I held off importing thinking NISA would do a physical release.

    • http://www.unit03.net blackraen

      Yeah apparently there’s a NISA announcement that said they’re going to censor it “to increase the potential audience.”

      It was kind of expected that hotL#NiQ wouldn’t get a physical. It’s digital only in Japan as well, with the only exception being about 10,000 limited edition premium box sets.

      We’ll see if NISA decided to do a premium with physical as well, but if you want to make sure to get a physical of Hotaru no Nikki, better go hunting for a JP Premium Box.

      • darke

        Didn’t the Japanese premium box just contain a download code for it anyway? So no physical just a bit of paper?

        • http://www.unit03.net blackraen

          As a proud and happy owner of a premium box, I can confirm, physical copy. NIS never would really say yay or nay whether the box would have a physical or not. I didn’t know until FedEx arrived and I looked inside and was like “wait… that’s a Vita card case!”

          If my word isn’t enough, you can check my PSNprofile — US region, hotL#NiQ trophies:

          http://psnprofiles.com/black_raen

          • darke

            Cool. Must have been thinking of another game that recently got a vita release as premium box+code.

          • DizzyGear

            I didnt know the premium box had such a limited run.
            I just bit the bullet and ordered one before the prices sky rocket after this announcement since i doubt i was the only one who was waiting to see what NISA would do.

            Edit: Respect for the plat on Drakengard 3. I had to stop at that certain “boss” before trowing my controller through the tv. lol

    • Jimmy Bump

      They just said that certain aspects of the games were edited for its English release to bring this title to as many fans as possible. So They aren’t being very descriptive and its too early to say what they are “editing” it could be something small it could be something large we don’t know. All I can really say is just wait and see what happens.

  • MrTyrant

    Ok….I wasn’t expecting Criminal Girls but then Im glad that previously not localized games on psp are considered a posibility if they get an enhanced port or remake in another. Now if they won’t censor this I will be happier.

    • Shinobikens

      Too bad they confirmed censorship already. Idk how much but it’s NISA so it’s probably ruined since most of the game mechanics revolve around the punishment stuff

      • MrTyrant

        In this kind of game you are really hurting “the main appeal” of what was produced.

        • Kornelious

          They do include the….”Touching Gameplay” in the letter though, so i imagine that they will either give them more clothes or cover everything with completely out of place smoke/steam…..(Sigh) :(

          • Jimmy Bump

            Maybe they aren’t even thinking of censoring that at all I just wish that they would come out and say what it was though because this little detail isn’t helping at all.

          • Kornelious

            True. NISA is limited by what they can censor in the minigame do to it’s how it functions (From what I’ve seen anyways) there is little they can do to it without it costing them MORE money or re-writing the feature itself…..Though I’m sure there are other little things that NISA might censor but I’m a little hopeful that they can’t do anything “Drastic”……Guess we will have to wait and see though……… -_-

            Also, WHY SPRING NEXT YEAR!? So loooong! X(

          • Jimmy Bump

            Yeah I wish they wouldn’t have set the release date to spring of next year that seems far they should have just said that they are releasing it so it doesn’t seem as far away but its good that they did say when it will come out so people at least know.

  • Michael Richardson

    Cool. Will definitely get Criminal Girls so long as the censorship isn’t too severe.

  • Jin Kisaragi

    They are going to edit some parts of Criminal Girls according to the press release.
    http://nisamerica.com/pressreleases/crim_girl_announcement_20140703.pdf

    • Weeb

      Abandon all hope.

      • Kornelious

        Y’now I can probably guarantee that MORE people will buy this game if it isn’t censored………just saying……

        • Weeb

          Too bad you don’t work for NISA. We need people with common sense in the industry

          • Jimmy Bump

            The only problem is if it gets an AO rating which wouldn’t help NISA’s case with this game which is probably why they are censoring it in the first place.

          • Kornelious

            I have never seen a game rated by ESRB for years that was rated AO…….(Though there probally were :P)

            I don’t think NISA needs to worry about this…..I can think of quite a few games that would qualify for an AO rating that didn’t get one…

        • Duo Maxwell

          They should have realized that bad press helps promoting your game. Take Senran Kagura for example.

  • http://youtube.com/kuyamagix iKen

    That’s great news! More reason to hold on to my VITA even more :D

  • Kornelious

    NISA was at Anime Expo?……Dang it Siliconera! Why didn’t you tell me? I didn’t have time to prepare! X(

    (Ahem) Were getting Firefly Diary! Awesome! Sucks that we’re not getting a physical release but it kinda seems like it would be a “Download only” type of game though so not “TOO” big of a loss…..And it’s coming in Fall, So soon! (I guess since there is not much dialogue it doesn’t take much to localize

    Now what was the other game?……………What?…….What!……..WHAT!? O_O
    NISA is localizing Criminal Girls, the game that everyone thought would never see the light of day in the west…..WHAT!?

    I shouldn’t get to happy though, knowing NISA they will probally censor a lot of stuff, including the….”Rubbing” mini-Game…..I hope they don’t though because that “Minigame” is one of the game’s main feautures!…….I think….Though we ARE getting the game either way :) (Hopefully a Limited Edition!)

    Well let’s hope NISA has more to unveil, I’m HYPED! :D

    • Jin Kisaragi

      I think they might keep the rubbing mini-game. Monster Monpiece kept the rubbing mini-game but that was published by Idea Factory International. I think there might be a chance that NISA might keep it.

      • Nu Blitz

        if anything the final punishment art may be edited. though i really hope they dont go through with censoring

        • Jin Kisaragi

          They already said that they will edit some parts of Criminal Girls.

  • MrTyrant

    I really don’t want to bring controversy here but I really hate that they have to censor everything to being accepted in the west. I mean it’s like ruining the main intention of the game or what the director wanted to tell, not this game particulary but everything else too visual novels included. I really want to enjoy the full product in a language I can understand clearly and buy for it but it gets difficult that even censoring these kind of games or stories you can still feel the hatred of most journalist saying the game is sexist or whanot then I think, what was the point? if it’s for selling then it has the opposite effect unless they just want to evade a possible protest outside their offices lol

    • dark-kyon

      they is selfcensored the game,nisa can pass the game uncut without problem the esrb and pegi and maybe get a teen rating.but the problem is the underage girls,what can do a backslash of the western media,if this game only have legal age girls i bet what nisa bring the game uncut.

      • Shinobikens

        Please if they leave it uncut they’ll get better advertisement than they could ever do.

      • MrTyrant

        Censor little girls only then D: not the whole punishment games. Criminal Girls doesn’t have much to stand by itself because it’s not a great RPG neither it has a great story although some character events were interesting.

      • D H

        That’s the main problem. This is something that NEEDS to be challenged. The entire situation is, putting it harshly and potentially offensively, retarded. I understand they are “underage,” but in no way except very basic form (two arms, two legs, head and body) do these character looks like real people, nor are they real people. Why is it okay for movies and books to imply underage relations or have children that are established as having been sex slaves, and yet when it comes to a game or manga, this is unacceptable? The arguement that it leads to endangerment of real children is not an acceptable one, either. If it is, then shooting people in a video game MUST also lead to shooting people in real life, something that much of the gaming world is debunking. If we can have all different kinds of “crimes” committed to characters that ARE NOT real people, why, then, must this be different?

        However, instead of fighting this, the entire western world, especially within the import business, simply leaves it be, doesn’t attempt to do anything, performs willing censorship, and everything else that people watching movies or reading novels have fought for and won. I completely understand that it would not be an easy battle; however, the bottom line is, this is a video game about characters that are not real, therefore, no crime is being committed, no people are in danger, and to argue that there is is to argue that everybody who has shot someone in GTA or CoD or even killed a random human in FFXIV has committed a crime and will be influenced to do the same thing in real life.

        • Landale

          Speaking strictly for the US viewpoint here. The problem with comparing it to violence and such is that content like this can be illegal, on a case by case basis. The law in question is basically impossible to fight against, given that most of it is designed to protect actual children. The only real way to fight it is desensitizing people, as well as adjusting the overall view of the medium as a whole. Censored content does help to some extent in that regard.

          • D H

            I would agree with that for the most part; however, my main issue is that I can easily find movies for sale in the US, made in the US and/or other countries, that features characters I’m told in the movie are underage, and yet somehow they still have sex scenes? This is okay though, because we know the actor is older than they are said to be. Yet, a 3D polygonal model and/or a piece of paper doesn’t get the same kind of protection, despite being completely ageless and not people at all? As I said, these characters don’t look anything like real people. I could completely understand the entire thing if they were designed in the style of real people, but they are purposefully not. I mean, really now, how can this be “illegal” and yet drawing a story about a rapist with no moral regard towards his victim and presented in a good light isn’t?

            That last line though, I cannot agree with. I do not find censored content to help in any extent, ever. If I just sit back and support it, then I’m basically telling a company that does such that I don’t care if I get the original intent of the item in question, but whatever some third-party intervenist wants me to get. Where do we draw the line with it? What is “okay” to censor and what isn’t, and why does that question even exist? I’d much rather, if nobody is willing to fight for clearance on laws here, not receive the product than get what somebody tells me is okay for me to have. And more importantly, why is there such difference in standards on violence and other things that makes it okay for you to commit genocide in a game/manga, but lord forbid if a young looking character, that again, is simply a polygon model and/or a drawing with neglible resemblence to real life young people, has relations with anybody?

            The law in question is impossible to fight against because, simply, no one wants to. It’s much easier to just say “oh, we’ll cut that out,” and people still support it. However, as with IF International’s Monster Monpiece, another game I was excited to see in English, I’m simply going to pass over this now, and pick up the Japanese version when I can find it for cheap. Eventually I’ll be able to read and play it well enough, and then I’ll enjoy as it was intended, and not as some third-party (whether it be a game company, movie studio, or even nation) deemed it “appropriate” for me.

          • Landale

            Censoring does help with desensitizing people. Compare, for example, what people get away with in movies now compared to 10 or 20 years ago. The reason certain mediums get away with more or less than others is simply how the medium is viewed.

            You’re also assuming people aren’t trying to fight this law. They are, and a good few bits of it have been ruled unconstitutional. However the bit that basically puts these things into a trial against public opinion, rather than actual facts, has been pretty consistently upheld. While the charge against things like this is obscenity, not pornography in and of itself, news that reports on the matter almost always refers to it as the latter, which does nothing but harm any attempts to set things straight.

            The companies that are censoring this stuff shouldn’t be the target of ire here, they’re doing what they need to to protect both themselves and their customers from the whims of the masses. If you want to be pissed at someone, if you want someone to change, look to the other forms of media demonizing the others, look to the groups that can’t and won’t make distinctions between clear fiction and reality, look to the people keeping that law in place. Otherwise accept that it’s going to be an uphill battle for getting censorship to change.

          • D H

            Y’know, I’ll accept those views as a valid opinion, though they still differ from my own, but it’s is a valid argruement. I can see it from both sides, since you’ve laid it out so well ^.^ Although, personally, I feel that movies have evolved more not from censoring but from the pioneers that didn’t allow their work to be censored, as I can’t really wrap my head around it any other way.

            Also, I’m not necessarily holding ire against the companies due to the fact that NISA and IF are censoring the games; moreso, I’d much rather see them simply bring something over that doesn’t have to be censored. Sure, people want to play these games, but at the same time, if they can’t play the entire game, what is the point? I most definitely continue to support them as they release games I love to play, and I’m greatly looking forward to Neptunia Re;Birth and am planning on picking up PP shortly (don’t care about reviews or opinions, as usually a lot of the games I like tend to be the ones that have bad reviews in the first place). I just won’t support the games that have been censored, as I don’t see the point of bringing them knowing you have to do so. The audience expecting an English release of Criminal Girls couldn’t have been large at all (I know I certainly didn’t expect it), so I can’t imagine there’d be much backlash towards not bringing it over as opposed to, say, La Pucelle Ragnarok.

          • Jimmy Bump

            Well said

          • Shippoyasha

            I still wonder if they can skate by if they did a digital release. I’m not the biggest fan of digital releases, but I wonder if they can go straight to the fandom with uncensored content that way. I mean, Sony is already pretty overbearing with truly sexual content in game publishing.

      • Jimmy Bump

        Maybe change the ages or remove them like senran kagura like xseed did.

    • Crazy_O

      I hope they just change the official ages and be done with it.

    • bassgs435

      no VN has been censored for western release aside from that one released by moenovel (in fact, they get uncensored because the japanese version has mosaic censorship in H CGs because of Japanese laws , and the localized versions remove the mosaics)

  • Bob Slim

    I gotta say im a big fan of nis even after mugen souls being censored but If this keeps up I dont know if I can stay fan of them anymore, I hate it so much cuz im not a importer like other people are, Im gonna start importing now my trust for you nis is going down the drain

    • Barrit

      Yea, I’m surprised they aren’t taking more risks since they no longer have the Neptunia games, but then again they are publishing/localizing for both US and Europe. I always go back to the example of Agarest War 2. Two different companies published the title in US and Europe. Europe had to get censored, and ours came over untouched. If the same company published it, both territories would have got the censored version since they aren’t going to make 2 versions of the same game. I think that’s just the crappy reality of it since they have to appease the rating boards of both territories. Oh well.. pass for me.

      • Bob Slim

        I wish 2 different companies would do the same for this game and, Others like it it sucks that NA got to get censored cuz mabye Europe rating wont allow it, Get someone els to do Europe if thats case, Thank god senran kagura wasnt by nis

        • bassgs435

          what’s funny is that SK Burst came to Europe in the same state as the US version (that is, uncensored (if we don’t count removing the girl’s ages from their library pages as censorship))

      • Bryce Ward

        Did they lose the Neptunia games?

        • Landale

          That’s the assumption, though there’s no actual confirmation on it to my knowledge. IFI’s handling Re;Birth1, but it’s not as though IF/CH and NISA are cutting ties or anything like that, so it could simply be them carrying some of the load given all the various things NISA are working on.

        • Barrit

          Well Idea Factory opened “Idea Factory International” I believe it’s called.. and they are starting to publish their own games in the US. So they not longer will be handling Neptunia nor will they be handling the Atelier games anymore.

          • Bryce Ward

            Did they say they won’t be handling Neptunia? I assumed NISA would publish some of the games while Idea factory would publish other. After all IF Japan is pumping out that series like crazy. There is about 4 Neptunia Games that will be needing translation in the near future. Can IF handle them all?

  • Dark Lord Ash

    So NISA localizes firefly’s diary (one step forward) and Criminal girls, but censors it (two steps back). A win/lose situation as most seem to see it as based on these comments

  • Afternoon Intergalactic

    ANIME EXPO IS THIS WEEKEND?! NOOOOO… I live twenty minutes away and yet can’t even make it out this year…. sadness.

  • Neppygear

    Aghhh, Criminal Girls is censored. I like my questionable games… questionable.

    • carlospsp

      source?

      edit: Notice: In order to bring this title to as many fans as possible in both North America and Europe,
      NIS America has edited certain aspects of this game.

      • Jimmy Bump

        the certain aspects are being in japanese only? lets hope

    • bigstew

      yah nis is the worse choice for these games, since they have more money as a middle man company for their mediocre ports have ps fanboy following, they dominate the panels for actual real quality ports, their is a best of criminal game coming out, will we get that or the original flawed with buy me dlc crap they are nis pushing, … them an koei driving the vita digital no dub except this because we are Japanese and u will take this up the a** and except it as quality, stand up and protest this crap business model

      • doubleO7

        Well, its not like there were any other choices for companies that could’ve brought these two games over. They’re Nippon Ichi titles.

  • http://www.thejaystack.com/ Jon Stachewicz

    Definitely want NiQ. NIS lost me for a long time but this is their first game since Soul Nomad and the World Eaters that’s got me reaching for the wallet

  • http://amc9988.deviantart.com/ amc99

    So HTOL will not gonna hev a physical release for both EU and NA huh… Ho about Criminal Girls: Invite Only? Will they release a physical for NA?

  • MrTyrant

    Probably censored lol:

    http://i.imgur.com/3QzU4ky.jpg

  • mojack411

    … Hell has officially frozen over.

  • Nu Blitz

    oh man that unexpected criminal girls too good. Glad i bought it as soon as i got a vita, will buy it again just to support demand for pervy games

  • Edgar Nieves

    well i wil import the game and look for english lets play. so thanks for traslating the game nisa
    :)

  • Alex Cattaneo

    Yesyesyes! Plz let criminal girls be physical

    • Edgar Nieves

      physical but censored.

  • Final Agent

    Reminder.
    http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-07-03/nis-america-adds-the-awakened-fate-ultimatum-criminal-girls-the-firefly-diary-games/.76255
    >NISA notes that certain aspects of the games were edited for its English
    release to “to bring this title to as many fans as possible.
    http://i.imgur.com/OwqB0Dk.jpg

    • Shady Shariest

      Boohoo =_=’

  • fyi1191

    Will the Punish game be removed? Since its the “not” important stuff like the bath mini game in Mugen Souls.

    • Shinobikens

      Can’t tell if sarcasm or not

    • James Hewitson

      The bath minigame in all honesty wasn’t important to mugen souls at all as it wasn’t a main feature. however in this case the punishment minigames ARE a signature feature of Criminal Girls, censoring them gimps the game and will make the localised release an incomplete/inferior version.

  • Gigan22

    Was super happy when I read about the localization announcement of Criminal Girls, but then I saw NISA would of course be editing it. Though from their press release, it seems the punishment mini-game will still be in the game. An educated guess says it’ll be the same type of censorship Monster Monpiece saw. Which, while highly disappointing, I’m actually half-okay with. If it’s just some of the artwork, I can view it online. I hate censorship, but if it’s between missing some of the art in-game and not playing the game, I’ll take missing some of the art any day. I’ve been playing Monster Monpiece and have been having enough fun with the game to warrant it being released in NA despite the censorship. Though in the case of Mugen Souls, the entire mini-game was cut out, not just some of the art. While it’s only a mini-game, it IS missing gameplay that was in the original game. That’s shortchanging the consumer more than if some images are missing IMO. I do understand their reasons for edits, but it doesn’t make it any better for us fans who wish to purchase the same game that came out in Japan. These companies(mainly looking at you NISA), have to know they’re losing out on a lot of sales they’d otherwise have. I highly doubt the number of sales they’re potentially gaining by censoring the game outweighs the sales they’d gain by not censoring it. Though I can’t prove that.

    • darke

      Oddly, as I mention below, I was actually annoyed about the removal of the art in Mon Mon (even though I can’t actually remember what the art was), since I, quite unexpectedly, found myself quite disappointed that i didn’t get a change of picture when I did the annoying rubbing game. Effort + no reward = disappointment; even if the reward isn’t interesting, and all that I guess.

      On the other hand I didn’t mind the removal of the minigame in Mugen Souls since it wasn’t slapping you in the face on a regular basis.

      I imagine if they somehow replace the more risqué pictures with somewhat less risqué pictures, I actually mightn’t mind it… but still I wish I could get it without major changes anyway. I was looking at buying the Japanese version recently since I figured it’d never be brought over, so I might just buy it anyway and get more practice reading. :P

  • James Hewitson

    Yeah right NISA as if I’d bow down and accept a censored Criminal Girls, I will stick with Japanese version thanks. If you don’t have the courage to bring over games in their original form then DON’T BRING THEM OVER AT ALL :@

    • Bryce Ward

      So many fans will have to go without the game in english Because you can’t stand the idea of the game have like 0.32% less skin.

      • James Hewitson

        Yeah…..right you obviously don’t get it so I’m not going to bother I’m done here.

  • Monterossa

    NISA rules!!

  • Jimmy Bump

    Rather than jump to conclusions about what is censored and what isn’t lets just sit and pray and say if they are censoring something lets hope that its nothing big and its so small that nobody would care.

    • Shippoyasha

      Well, the smallest of censorships in past NISA games still got notice. It’s just that it’s piling on and getting bigger and more brazen each time. But yeah. Hoping against hope that they don’t censor much or at all if they can help it.

  • Alex Cattaneo

    Do people even know in japan childs porn stuff is legal? like the picture seen below that is soo NOT done here in the west and for good reasons!
    just be happy they are even brining the damn game.

    • Duo Maxwell

      I must suggest you to distinguish between blood and flesh to ink and paper. I guess only Japan know the difference between fiction and reality.

      Child porn is not legal in Japan. Fictional art is.

      • WhyWai

        Well said. Same can be said to shooting and killing Enemy AI. Shouldn’t that be banned too since murder is illegal. According to the logic.

        • Guest

          Re-read what he posted, you are agreeing with what he said.

          • Robert Dexter

            I think you need to re-read what he said.
            He is agreeing and pointing out the hypocrisy.

            Killing in games is AOK but sexual content is not. Don’t you see the hypocrisy there?

      • Guest

        Clap clap clap~

    • James Hewitson

      You actually think it’s child porn? Ahahahaha wait your actually serious? LOL

      • Alex Cattaneo

        did i say that? noo i didnt..
        Here in holland if even a fucking anime girls looks like an underaged girls having seks is childs porn.
        and yes in japan it is legaal to have that they just recently changed it(not for anime and games)

        • Shady Shariest

          Child porn was illegal all ready. They changed the law to govern 3D art. Since there is a high change real children have been used as a point of reference for models.

        • Hexodious

          Here in Holland everything anime related is taboo anyways. When you talk about ‘anime’ and the first thing they remember is: “Wasn’t there an animu on TV 10 years ago”?

          If an ‘underaged anime girl’ pornograph appears in Holland it will take them more than a week to realize what the fuck it’s all about.

      • Landale

        I can’t speak for Japanese law, but by US legal definitions, it actually can possibly be classified as such.
        http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c108:6:./temp/~c108qHmDE9:e99086:

        `(a) IN GENERAL- Any person who, in a circumstance described in subsection (d), knowingly produces, distributes, receives, or possesses with intent to distribute, a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that–
        `(2)(A) depicts an image that is, or appears to be, of a minor engaging in graphic bestiality, sadistic or masochistic abuse, or sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex; and
        `(B) lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value;

        • Rock Volnutt

          Can possibly. It has to fufill the three requirements established by the Miller test before it can be classified as obscene.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test

          Whether “the average person, applying contemporary community standards”, would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest,

          Whether the work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by applicable state law,

          Whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.[3]

          The work is considered obscene only if all three conditions are satisfied.

          To do that, they have to ignore the soundtrack, the story, the gameplay, just about everything, which I don’t think is very likely. Not to mention Agarest 2 came over just fine and that also had lolis.

        • kanade3

          Yet something like Higurashi( anime+ VN) have had no problems with that law,or any law for that matter even with actual depictions of slow torture that eventually lead to death of a young child at the hands of a twisted sadist ,a child committing a slow suicide with a knife to the head,and young teens/young children committing sadistic acts of murder against each other,or other characters.

      • landlock

        While we may not consider it that way. The average person will as well as the media. It would be much bad press for NISA.

        In the end like Monster Monpiece I can understand way they would take it out. It was never going to make it over like that. i’m just happy there going to the trouble.

        • Shippoyasha

          Then again, the ‘average’ person thinks anime is risque just because they heard certain things about it or thinks ecchi/hentai stuff is tied with official anime industry. I think it’s taking a few step backwards to sell such a heavily niche game to people who will not have the kind of understanding the fans already have. Besides, it’s not even like people don’t have the internet to do a little research as well.

    • kardonius

      Aside from it not being remotely close to child pornography, child porn is not legal in Japan either. Manufacture of child porn has been illegal in Japan for a long time, possession was made illegal not long ago.

  • Crazy_O

    NISA needs to realize people buy CG for titillation. Removing parts of it is like removing guns from a shooter and replacing them with hugs to kill people. (lol now I kinda want a game like that, but that was not my point.)

  • Shady Shariest

    There all ready is a trailer up for Criminal Girls, too =W=

  • Herok♞

    I love how people are overacting without knowing how much is censored, then again, all censorship is bad and has no place whatsoever in the world. After all it’s not like things like Monster Monpiece still got an M after censorship. Heaven Forbid they change content so that they can release the game and not get an AO rating in the process. Besides, I view it like this, even with people saying they won’t buy the game its still more money than they would have made if they wouldn’t be able to release the game. I am against censorship as well but boycotting games because of games isn’t the best way to handle it, also keep in mind that you could still enjoy the game normally and just google the images that were censored.

    • Kumiko Akimoto

      I’ll buy it because I like the look of the overall game, I’ll be disappointed by the censorship but it won’t take me away from the gameplay as long as it stays like monster monpiece.All it did was take a some questionable art it didn’t touch the game mechanics. I don’t want a mini game removed or something changed just so it can fit western standards.

    • Shippoyasha

      To be fair, an AO won’t really stop online sales. It may hamper with retail, but niche games do well on digital sales as well. And Monpiece WAS digital only.

      I am not for full on censorship either, but I just wish NISA listens to the fans and purists and not make it sound like we are freaks for even asking for an unchanged version (or a mode, if that’s what it takes).

      • Herok♞

        AO would stop all sales, Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo all don’t allow AO games on their platforms, so it would stop even digital.

    • Reno Takamiya

      Monster Monpiece ended up being Rated ‘T’ after the censorship happened. However, the developers ended up opting for a higher rating because of the sexual themes (M). Apparently, you can do that when it happens to be a digital-only title. The only NISA titles I’m aware of that got censored were the Mugen Souls series.

      Who knows what they’ll do with Criminal Girls. Count me in for not agreeing with censorship as well, but as long as it doesn’t affect a major portion of the game, I’m fine with it. Mugen Souls also seemed to have a ‘rubbing’ mini-game and that might see Criminal Girls getting the same treatment. Unless they do like Monster Monpiece did. I really hate the censorship/controversy these games cause in general though.

  • Kayriss Wins

    Wow I wrote a comment JUST yesterday about hoping both these titles would get released and what do I see? both Titles CONFIRMED for localization the next day, that’s scary man.

  • TerrenceEncore Jones

    I have always wondered why do US companies even attempt to bring over games that have to be heavily censored. They may cite something about “appealing to fans” or “giving fans what they want” however if the item is changed to the point where it is an incomplete version of the original are they (video game companies) really giving fans what they want?

    • Edgar Nieves

      they just want quick cash.

      • Landale

        Quick cash. By having to do more work, and thus spend more money. Right. There can be no other reason at all for these sorts of decisions.

        • kardonius

          Dunno about ‘quick’ cash, but it certainly is more about money than anything else.
          Pleasing the fans would obviously involve not censoring the game in the first place.
          A principled standpoint against the content would involve not releasing it at all, and thus not profiting off of material one considers morally reprehensible.
          The safest legal route would likewise involve not taking the risk to release it.

          They want to make as much as they can off of it regardless of pissing off some of their fans, and obviously think that it will sell enough while censored to justify that effort.

    • landlock

      I believe Criminal Girls was a pretty requested title when it was first released on the PSP. While it’s unfortunate the game is getting slightly censored it’s not the end of the world.

      While the negitive voices on boards are pretty loud everytime something gets censored. I don’t think the average person will care that much.

      In my opinion I’d rather get the game in English/censored then not at all and if you really mind that much you can import the game from Japan since the PSvita is region free.

      • Shippoyasha

        The problem is that the hardcore fans want the true experience. Not games constantly aiming to please people who barely had a passing interest in it to begin with. They are forcing a niche game and trying to pass it a mainstream game. It just doesn’t work. And that’s me trying to be calm about the situation, despite feeling seriously burnt out by NISA’s response the past few weeks (and years of censorship).

        • landlock

          There not really forcing anything there are two choices censor it or don’t release it IMO. That content was never going to make it.

          That much should be obvious to anyone.

          • kardonius

            That’s a false dichotomy, there is no evidence that they could not release the game without censorship.

        • Landale

          “Hardcore fans” likely already have it. Especially if they want “the true experience”.
          And honestly I really do believe there are legal concerns. I’ve brought up the PROTECT Act repeatedly, both in this article and several back during the Monster Monpiece discussions. I’d suggest you look at it, it’s rather interesting and maybe you’ll aim your ire at the right people when you’re done.
          There are many countries with laws like it as well, I linked a few of them in the past but not here, and there are a few far more strict about it.
          It’s less about trying to pass something off as mainstream, and more trying to not make the product illegal.

          • Boku

            It is definitely to try and make the game more.. palatable for everyone. There is no reason them to hide behind scares of AO ratings or illegality claims because it just wont happen. Even if they were true, why not submit that stuff TO the boards and get solid evidence that it will, in fact, make the game unsaleable to which even the most vehement anti-censorship person will be able to look at and go “Okay, fair enough”. Theyve only just announced theyre working on the title and already theyve lost a good percentage of their potential customers by saying itll be censored for no actual reason past their own morals which is in stark bloody contrast to the types of games theyre meant to be in charge of localising. The fanservice here is one of the main parts of the game — the primary draw — and yet here they are, right off the bat, saying theyll be censoring it.

            Theres been a few games in the past with touching, groping, bathing and all sorts of other innuendo-laden acts featuring, amongst others, small, flat-chest girls. Theyre a guaranteed M in the US, no doubt, but in the EU (where people are always quick to point fingers about laws being tighter regarding loli material) they often only see a 12 rating. But that could come from a two-fold reason: ESRB genuinely rates sexual content higher and/or because PEGI have to review every game (with no ability to simply opt for a higher rating to save time as can be done with ESRB) its more representative.

            And I think its a little unfair to assume that all “hardcore fans” either know Japanese or purchase/play games in a language they are unfamiliar with, else they wouldnt be looking to localisation companies at all. Its only a kick in the teeth when they decide to pull this kind of twaddle, unless they can see it as motivation to actually go and learn Japanese.

          • Landale

            The thing is, if you’ve ever looked at their forums, there are people that scream bullshit at them even after it’s been stated that they were in fact informed that the removed content would’ve caused games to get an AO rating.

            There’s also the matter of the main US law regarding this is such a fucking nightmare. It’s not illegal, at least not until someone complains. Then, maybe it is, depending on how the people in your area feel about things. Then it’s hello 20 years or so in prison and a place on the sex offender registry. And, no, I’m not kidding about that.

          • Boku

            They “scream bullshit” because they never present any evidence. Just “Oh they said that maybe it might but they need to know the context to be sure” and they took that as sacrosanct and a definite AO if they even tried. Not least that NISA keep flip-flopping on what and why they do what they “have to” do.

            And, again, they wouldnt be setting a precedent at all. If we even assume this niche as all hell title would get any more public scrutiny than a little bit of shaming on twitter or any other of the usual social justice channels. I cant even remember the last game that got the mainstream media (or even just a small sect of whoever) upset AND that they got something done about it. Not for sexual or otherwise innuendo-laden content, anyway.

          • Landale

            It doesn’t need to get a lot of attention actually. It takes one person bitching to get the ball rolling.
            Judging by the images I’ve seen, some of the content does meet the legal definition of porn, not in and of itself illegal thanks to the First Amendment. And as no real child, or image nearly indistinguishable from a real child, that still stands unless it ends up qualifying as obscene, which is pretty much up to your community to decide. And people have gone to jail over this law.
            http://io9.com/5272107/manga-collection-ruled-child-pornography-by-us-court
            http://www.joplinglobe.com/crime_and_courts/x253529908/Monett-man-pleads-guilty-to-possession-of-child-porn-cartoons

          • kardonius

            In both cases however, they went to jail because they accepted a plea deal. They were not convicted by a jury. Aside from that, the rest of the game would almost certainly prevent the game as a whole from being considered obscenity. Especially considering that the paper thin ‘plots’ in commercial pornography obviously are good enough to provide most of them with sufficient literary or artistic merit to prevent them from being classified as obscenity.

          • Rock Volnutt

            They stated that, but they have not a thing to back it up. They never even tried to submit it to the ESRB in its original form.

          • Rock Volnutt

            The PROTECT Act says

            “(B) such visual depiction is a computer image or computer-generated
            image that is, or appears virtually indistinguishable from that of a
            minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct”

            One, the characters in the game are pretty removed from reality and definitely not “indistinguishable” from a real minor. Two, there’s nothing 100% sexually explicit in the game. Other games featuring lolis have come over before without censorship, like Senran Kagura Burst, so your argument really doesn’t hold up, at least for the US.

          • Landale

            Rather than reply to you at every point you seemed to choose to pick at this, I’ll do it all here.
            When you pick it apart down to a single line, not only a single line but a single line that’s a single portion of course you can ignore it. However there is more to it than that.
            The part I pulled up and quoted specifically below is where this comes into play, they don’t need to be indistinguishable. Though your response there was to simply bring up the Miller Test, but only in response to my statement that it can classify, legally, as porn, which technically it does under the “sadistic or masochistic abuse” check. The Miller Test doesn’t determine if something is porn or not, it determines if it is obscene. And it’s there, it’s 2B, rather than 2A.
            That is where this differs from the usual defenses of Agarest 2 and Senran Kagura for “but people got away with similar stuff”. This one openly meets the criteria for 2A, it just needs a community to say they find it offensive, more or less, to meet the criteria for 2B. It’s all a matter of context, not merely fanservice, and this thing’s context easily puts one foot in the grave. As for the defense of pulling up other games, ones that would also qualify for 2A intentionally or not, that doesn’t really work. The way that law is set up basically these sorts of things aren’t illegal, until people get offended, then it’s totally illegal. It literally puts you at the mercy of public opinion, rather than fact, due to how obscenity laws work.

          • Rock Volnutt

            I think I understand what you’re saying, but if I’m wrong please correct me, but it has to meet all three criteria, right? Assuming it passes the first two, it’s still unlikely to be deemed of no artistic value because it’s a game and has more to it than JUST the lewd. In order to declare the entire uncensored game obscene, they’d have to ignore all other parts of it like the music, the (not-indecent) artwork, the gameplay, and the effects of the Punish system showing it’s not there 100% purely for fap material; it also affects the rest of the game and the characters’ relationships.

          • Landale

            Correct, the big thing hinges on the Miller Test. And the big problem there is simply the inability for people to agree if games are an art or not.

            Interestingly, looking further into things, distribution method would also play a part in how it gets judged.
            Physical distribution would pretty much limit the “community standards” to the area of the complaint. Digital distribution, on the other hand, would fall to checking “national community standards”. Essentially one method is easy enough to end up illegal in part of the country if it gets tried in just the right uptight area with the possibility of the result chaining off elsewhere by matter of swaying the opinions of other communities, while the other is much harder to find illegal, but if it were it’d be immediately damning for the product nationwide.

          • Rock Volnutt

            >Correct, the big thing hinges on the Miller Test. And the big problem
            there is simply the inability for people to agree if games are an art or
            not.

            I see what you’re getting at. Even if they don’t necessarily think it’s GOOD art, I don’t think they’d discard the whole package based on controversial scenes. Technically, just about anything can be considered art and that’s kind of the point I’m trying to make.

          • Landale

            I agree with the point. I’m just aware of the other viewpoints.
            It’s a stupid law, well pretty much just that particular part of it, but it is unfortunately something that needs to be considered as it is a law regardless.

          • kanade3

            That is if it reaches the miller test at any point in the court case. There are just way too many undetermined factors in a case like this to really get a accurate view on how it would play out in court. Just as a example of a undetermined factor ,If all of the rating boards out there gave this sort of content a passing rating( anything under a AO rating), claim that the government,and/or courts are over reaching on this matter ,and say that the content doesn’t fall under sections like “sadistic or masochistic abuse” it becomes much harder to argue against the content,and the courts would essentially be forced to prove that the rating boards are not doing their job . Of course it could go the other way,and make it easier to argue against the content.

          • kanade3

            The PROTECT Act still hasn’t stopped companies like Mangagamer,Funimation,and a few others from releasing very questionable sexual content,some of which are 18+ sex scenes that involve lolicon characters. Assuming every rating board gave the game a passing rating as in anything under AO rating it’s going to be very hard for the opposing side to argue that it’s illegal.

          • M’iau M’iaut

            Please take a moment to read MGs forums and some of their tweets. They very specifically mention that apparent age and content has an impact on what they do and do not bring over. JAST has pulled titles from their library for much the same reason. And in all these instances we are talking unrated titles ONLY ever available through small online companies and a tiny number of stores where they were only ever merchandised alongside AVs.

          • kanade3

            I’m aware there is certain content that the companies may not be willing to release,and for the record I’ve never made the claim that those companies would be willing to release everything out there.

            My point is the PROTECT ACT law itself has so far never legally stopped,or even punished theses companies for content already released,and profited from that can be considered illegal.

            As for JAST pulling titles,you have to take into account that Peter Payne doesn’t share the same ideals as G-collections which is why the titles with some lolicon content were never picked up again when he purchased the failing G-collections.

        • Bryce Ward

          If you want the “true experience” than import the original jp version. it doesn’t get truer than that. Translation itself is technically censorship because they are removing the original language.

          • Shippoyasha

            That is what I will have to do. I agree with you.

      • shadowind

        Same here, I’d rather play it in English and censored than not at all.

  • Prima

    So happy to hear Firefly’s Diary is coming to the west!!!! It was one that I was hoping would get localized!!!

  • artemisthemp

    Good to see Firefly’s Diary is coming to the West :)

  • Bryce Ward

    Chou Megami black Heart should have been localized over these titles.

  • http://hanzoadam.tumblr.com/ Hanzoadam

    That’s interesting about Crimal girls

    But 2015 that’s ages away

    • Juan Manuel M. Suárez

      Only one year away~.

  • HououinKyouma

    All these news o_o. I’m really overjoyed, I don’t even have the words…

  • Shadow Rebirth

    before making any assumption, let’s look how many they censored. who knows they only censored few things.

  • Bryce Ward

    Oh please no one cares about preserving the artists original vision. they only care about having as much sexual gratuitous content in the game as possible.

    When Yggdra Union was release in NA for GBA not only was it’s bath scene NOT censored it actually had significantly MORE sexual content than the original Japanese version(a rarity). Did these anti-censorship warriors complain about it? Nope. Not. A. Peep. Infact when the game was ported to the PSP they hollered at the idea that the NA version(which was NOT the original version) of the bath scene would be “censored” as if IT was the original.

    They only care when sexual content is removed, not when it is added.

    • shadowind

      Finally, someone else here who shares my viewpoint!

    • darke

      I didn’t care about it for Mon Mon since i thought it was meaningless fanservice, and I ended up regretting it even though I didn’t care much for the card art. (In fact since I played it on the bus to work and back it probably made it much ‘cleaner’ to do so!)

      I’m definitely going to be waiting to find out from let’s plays or youtube reviews to see if they’re actually making the game feel less rewarding by duplicating old content again. :(

    • Rock Volnutt

      Nobody is going to complain about more content being added for an international/localized release of a game, regardless of what it is; it doesn’t just apply to sex appeal. Don’t be silly. No one cares that Akiba’s Trip 2′s western version has manservice in it, even straight guys. It’s extra content, not removing anything, there’s literally nothing to complain about. No one cared that the Japanese release of Crash Bash added Fake Crash as a playable character. No one complained when the North American release of Radiant Dawn added a harder difficulty. No one complained when Tales of the Abyss’ North American version got additional artes.

      No one complains because it’s extra, additional content. Nothing is being removed. Nothing is being butchered. You’re getting a 110%. Can you really not see the difference between this and removing a part of a game? Can you really not see that this does not apply only to things of a sexual nature?

      • Bryce Ward

        But it’s still altering the original version. Everyone keeps saying they want it unaltered. Your just proving their hypocrisy. Your saying it’s okay to alter the game as long as they alter it YOUR way. Plus by your definition Translation ITSELF is a form of censorship because they are Removing the original Japanese language and dialogue.

        • Rock Volnutt

          >But it’s still altering the original version.
          What? Don’t be silly, a translation conveys the exact same message, but puts it in a language others can understand. The dialogue itself is not being changed, just put into a different language; the same meaning is there.

          • Bryce Ward

            So it’s okay to alter the product as long it’s the way YOU want.

  • http://epiclyamazing.wordpress.com/ AzureNova

    “Sigh”

    I WANTED to play Criminal Girls, but I just can’t bring myself to do it knowing that it’s censored to Hell. -_-

    • Sentsuizan_93

      But we don’t know how much has been edited. Hopefully they keep it to a minimum.

      • http://epiclyamazing.wordpress.com/ AzureNova

        But that’s just it. Obviously they knew how the game was, and what it contained in the first place. So to edit it is just blah altogether. It’s like giving me a half full cup of water lol

    • Juan Manuel M. Suárez

      Clearly you didn’t want to play it that much~.

      • darke

        Or he wanted to play it so much that he feels that by playing a “censored to Hell” copy he’s not actually playing the real game, but merely a pale imitation.

        • http://epiclyamazing.wordpress.com/ AzureNova

          @Juan Manuel M. Suárez:disqus

          I was basically just about to say that Darke lol. Of course the game is still obviously playable, but I feel that a censored version isn’t the full experience of the game. The reason for the censorship is because of the risque scenes and all in this case, but I would still feel the same way if it were murder scenes, or blood and gore as well.

          Same reason why I couldn’t watch the censored versions of the animes Witchblade, Deadman Wonderland, Dance In The Vampire Bund, etc…….
          Censorship is just ugh lol. I wonder how the creators feel about the censorship of their works as well be it anime, video games, or whatever.

          • Ric Vazquez

            Agreed

        • Juan Manuel M. Suárez

          Just because you don’t get to see scantily clad female characters, I wouldn’t call the game a “pale imitation”. Your analogy is atrocious, no offense~.

          • darke

            Ignoring the fact that the original poster agreed with me, and you’re better off arguing with him since he’s the one with the actual opinion…

            You don’t think a game about killing nazis with the swastikas replaced with ‘censored’ neutral symbols is a ‘pale imitation’?

            Shooting game where instead of the guys dying they disappear bloodlessly?

            Do you prefer those analogies instead?

            I’ve played those ‘censored’ games, and quite frankly they’re a fucking ‘pale imitation’ of the original games. Not only art but in gameplay.

            So how can calling removing ‘sexualised content’ from a game focused on ‘sexualised content’ not somehow result in a ‘pale imitation’ or the original? You’re certainly going to get a lesser experience.

          • http://epiclyamazing.wordpress.com/ AzureNova

            What you said made perfect sense to me lol =)

  • shadowind

    Why am I not surprised that there’d be people complaining about Criminal Girls being censored. I don’t care what people think about it being censored. I hate censorship as much as the next person, but at least I’m willing to be rational enough to accept it in certain cases like this one and buy the game so I can play it in English.

    • darke

      I did that with Mon Mon and I ended up regretting it and will probably buy the Japanese version to actually grind the platinum for it rather then the US one. It’s quite dispiriting to have to do the annoying rubbing game for nothing to happen. :( I don’t care for the artwork much, but the fact I put a lot of effort into getting something to change, and it didn’t change sucked much more then I though it would. :(

    • Rock Volnutt

      How is buying the game being rational? You’re getting less than the full product. By buying it, you send NISA the message that butchering games when bringing them over is acceptable and that they should continue doing it. If you truly hated censorship, you wouldn’t be getting the game in hopes that NISA would learn from their mistakes and we would get full games intact.

      If you really, REALLY still want to play it in English, assuming they’re not digital only, why not just buy them used? That way, you can play it in English while not supporting censorship since NISA isn’t getting a dime from you. It’s what I did with Sin & Punishment: Star Successor and will do with Bravely Default. I’m not going to NOT play a great game because of it, but at the same time I’m not going to tell them that neutering games and treating consumers like they’re watching 4kids is acceptable.

      • shadowind

        I can understand where you’re coming from, but at the same time I like to consider myself as the type of gamer who loves playing Japanese games and who’s willing to play them even if they’re censored for legal reasons. It’s also why I say to all those who want to play them uncensored that if they want to do so, then they should import the Japanese release and use a strategy guide from GameFAQS…

        Also, so what if I’m not getting the full experience with Criminal Girls or Mugen Girls, as long as the main story is still intact, does it really matter that much?

        • Rock Volnutt

          >and who’s willing to play them even if they’re censored for legal reasons.
          I can’t speak for Europe, but NISA’s excuse is a load of bull. There have been games with lolis in sexual situations before that have come across without getting censored. You’re not only being an apologist for this, but an apologist for a reason that’s not even valid.

          >as long as the main story is still intact, does it really matter that much?
          Are you seriously, unironically playing an NIS game for its story? Most of them are incredibly average, at best. If you want to play JRPGs for their story, why not play JRPGs with an actual good story, and gameplay, for that matter? With PSOne classics, there are a number of them up on PSN that you can play on your Vita, and if you’ve played those already there are still other ones like Tales of Hearts R that I know that if you don’t know Japanese you DEFINITELY haven’t touched yet. Its story may not be 11/10 either, but it’s definitely going to be better than this. It seems like you’re making a ton of excuses and almost none of them make any sense whatsoever.

          • shadowind

            I’m sorry that you disagree with me, but to call somebody that you don’t even know an apologist is stupid!

            I hate censorship as much as the next person, especially when it comes to anime and manga, but at the same time, even I know that if a game that I want to play badly has to be censored for legal reasons, then it’s just one of those things. I’m glad it’s coming out in English and I’m not bothered that it’s censored, because I’m still going to buy the damn game regardless of what certain people think.

            And besides, what’s the odds you’d have probably complained if the game wasn’t coming out at all in English or it was download-only…

          • Rock Volnutt

            >I’m sorry that you disagree with me, but to call somebody that you don’t even know an apologist is stupid!

            But you are being an apologist right now. And your insistence on saying that the game was censored for legal reasons (despite me multiple times throughout the comments saying that that’s not the case and naming games by name that had similar content that came over just fine) leads me to believe you’re on NISA’s payroll or something.

            I would personally rather not get a game at all than have it come over butchered. I don’t support censorship period, but even if I did this is especially silly. I didn’t get Bravely Default because of the censorship in it, even though it was minor, but here NISA is censoring an ecchi game. The entire point of the game is fanservice, and they’re removing a good chunk of it. Do you not see the problem here?

            It would be like watching a superhero movie, but all of the action scenes are gone under the pretense that it would get the film rated NC-17. Half, if not all, of the reason to go see a superhero movie is the action. And the claim the distributor made you can easily realize isn’t true because there have been plenty of superhero movies with action in them, and they’re not NC-17.

          • M’iau M’iaut

            Point made. You don’t need to continue railing against everyone with a differing opinion.

      • ZnTxn

        Huh, what happened to Sin & Punishment?

        • Rock Volnutt

          Its religious themes were downplayed a lot for the North American release.and some stuff doesn’t make as much sense as it should as a result, like Isa’s Freudian Excuse.

    • chroma816

      Supporting censorship in any form only breeds more censorship. It’ll start with “just this one title” or “only this part of this specific game”, and stick its tendrills everywhere.

  • Juan Manuel M. Suárez

    They are coming, screw whoever has something to nitpick about them. Couldn’t be happier for my PSV~.

    • Rock Volnutt

      You are defending getting a game with objectively less content.

      It would be like going to an pizza place, ordering a full pizza, and getting only half of one for the same price and saying that it’s okay. The thing is if less people would be apologists for NISA’ practices, then perhaps we’d get the full thing.

      • DyLaN

        What if I don’t care abt the contents getting edited? I just want to enjoy the game w/out all the awkward loli fanservice.

        And do ppl really that desperate for the game to get an AO rating just so they can get the “full” experience?

        • Yaro

          The awkward loli fanservice is a core feature of the game, if you dont like it, perhaps the game isnt for you.

          And it would NOT get an AO rating. Demon gaze has a lot of lewd content and its PEGI 12 in europe for example.

        • Rock Volnutt

          Is this bait? Because I think that you’re trolling at this point.
          The gameplay for this game sucks. Don’t believe me? Watch some gameplay. If you really want to play a JRPG, on your Vita, why not get one of the dozens of PSOne classic JRPGs, or save up for Tales of Hearts R, where the gameplay is astronomically better? Almost literally the entire point of it IS loli fanservice.

          It’s like going into a Chinese restaurant and then wanting them to get rid of the Chinese food because it tastes different from other food. If you don’t like Chinese food so much, why go to the Chinese restaurant? And the game wouldn’t get an AO rating if it remained uncensored, plenty of other games with lolis in it have come across intact, like, again, Agarest 2 and Senran Kagura Burst. The worst they would get is an M rating, an AO is reserved for pretty much only explicit sex.

        • chroma816

          >What if I don’t care abt the contents getting edited? I just want to enjoy the game w/out all the awkward loli fanservice.

          There is, quite literally, no other reason to play the game. Without the parts that get censored out, it’s purely a mediocre JRPG with nothing special. At all. If you don’t like the “awkward loli fanservice” there’s no reason to actually play the game.

          • Pyrotek85

            Makes you wonder who they think they’re catering the game to when they make those kinds of cuts. It’s not like they’re going to appeal to a different demographic now.

          • http://twitter.com/#!/kaishou Kaishou

            It’s more about making the game more accessible to a wider audience rather than catering to a certain demographics….if that makes any sense.

          • Rock Volnutt

            But in making the game more accessible to a wider audience, they’re alienating a major portion of their core fanbase, almost the only people who buy their games. If you don’t believe me, look at the sales of Mugen Souls in North America. It was censored, and it bombed. The Limited Edition from TWO YEARS AGO STILL hasn’t sold out yet (source: http://store.nisamerica.com/Exclusives/Mugen-Souls-Limited-Edition), and compared to NIS’ other, uncensored, games, like Neptunia, which sold out within months, it’s apparent that censorship does have a major negative impact on sales.

          • Bryce Ward

            Neptunia was a Better game than Mugen Souls. That’s why Neptunia won. NOT because it’s NA counterpart showed a little less skin.

      • http://twitter.com/#!/kaishou Kaishou

        Yeah I am so going to miss the punishment time system…..not.

        • Rock Volnutt

          You realize that it’s a major part of the game? If you don’t like that sort of thing, why are you interested in these sort of games in the first place? That’s practically all they have to them.

          • http://twitter.com/#!/kaishou Kaishou

            Well I’m more interested in the story and characters than being a sadist so yeah…who can fault me for being interested in the game for an entirely different reason?

            [edit - if that particular system is a major part then tell me how it contribute to me progressing through the game]

            [edit - soo those 2 dislikes, sorry if I decided not to use this as a fapping material]

          • Rock Volnutt

            The story and characters don’t seem particularly interesting from the trailer. As I’ve said before, if you’re looking for good story and characters there are plenty of other JRPGs to play. If you consider those in Criminal Girls good, no offense, perhaps it’s your standards that are the problem.

            The punish system, doubltless what’s going to be censored heavily, is a major part of the game. It gives stat boosts, more suggestions, and it’s not an exaggeration to say it’s a major part of the gameplay.
            http://andriasang.com/comqga/criminal_girls_punish/

            You’re defending a game and its censorship yet you don’t know enough information about it a simple Google search will give you.

      • Juan Manuel M. Suárez

        I’m defending getting a game without scantily clad loli BS. Please, drop the crusade act and save it for something worth a damn~.

      • Herok♞

        Not really you still get the pizza its like the pizza is missing a few toppings if we are using that example

  • Juliano C

    Man, I wanted a LE for Firefly’s Diary :(

  • Tincho Kudos

    Is firefly diary a full priced game?

  • DingLayGorFe

    I want to play 7th dragon 2020-II again in English

    • http://epiclyamazing.wordpress.com/ AzureNova

      You and me both minus the “again” part lol

  • Aristides

    Why is Firefly Diary Digital Only?… This could have been a really stand out title for the Vita… Well I’ll still be getting it but I guess I’ll also have to be stuck on importing…

  • chroma816

    >only available as a download
    Goddamnit. I mean, I’m happy it’s coming over, but I would’ve loved the LE with the artbook and stuff.

  • Carlos Daniel Flores Loreto

    I would’ve bought CG uncensored.

  • http://vindictushots.tumblr.com/ Okuni-chan

    Whoa nice! I will buy both :D!

  • KuroNathan

    I’ve always wondered this. Why is censorship unacceptable if it means we never get the game stateside? I’m a person who is willing to compromise but what is it about censorship that is unacceptable?

    If people care that much about artistic integrity, it’s not like they’re going back to japan and changing the japanese version. The original version is still easily accessible. They’re not going to release a patch through the japanese psn to suddenly censor their version as well.

    If its about preserving the original creator’s work, the act of translation already corrupts it anyways. A lot of jokes either have to be adapted to western mannerisms (“hamburgers” and spoony bards) or left untranslated and the joke flying over the audience’s heads completely.

    • Rock Volnutt

      The point of translation is that it’s supposed to be just that; as faithful to the original source as possible, just translated into a different language. Neutering a portion of the game isn’t very faithful. I can understand jokes that wouldn’t translate well, but there’s a difference between doing that, as part of the localization process, and arbitrarily removing half of the appeal of a game to appease an audience that is almost not even there.

      • Bryce Ward

        Calm down. They are only removing a tiny amount of sexual content which serves no purpose other to get a “rise” out of people. The story and gameplay are going to be left completly intact. Remember, Translation itself is a form of censorship

        • Rock Volnutt

          But a significant portion of the gameplay revolves around the punish system. It influences relationships with characters and suggestions that they give.

          >Remember, Translation itself is a form of censorship
          No it’s not. Provided it’s not taking liberties and is the same text but in a different language, and the author’s original message was conveyed, no it’s not.

          • Bryce Ward

            The “Author’s original message” was in japanese so yes it’s censorship.

        • MrTyrant

          >The story and gameplay are going to be left completly intact.

          There isn’t much there anyway. The games was designed with the punishment system in mind and everything else was construted around it. You are using the logic of previously censored games but that doesn’t work here my example of directly censoring blood and death in games like GoW or Mortal Kombat is better applied since it’s part of the main charms of those yet you could say that they are both a good action game and the other a good fighter while Criminal Girls isn’t that good as an RPG.

      • KuroNathan

        If they didn’t remove that portion though then the game would probably not pass ESRB rating. If that’s the case I’m willing to accept 90% of a game rather then no game at all.

        • Rock Volnutt

          But that’s downright not true, considering they never submitted it in its original form to the ESRB in the first place.

          • KuroNathan

            It’s very likely they asked members beforehand what kind of content will get what ratings.

            Most of these kind of game ratings are done beforehand as they talk back and forth between company and board with the review only being a formal almost ceremonial type of deal

          • Rock Volnutt

            >It’s very likely they asked members beforehand what kind of content will get what ratings.
            They did not, because there are games with much, much worse content that came over with at the WORST only an M. I find it incredibly hard to believe Criminal Girls and Mugen Souls/Z would get an AO. Not to mention the ESRB never said that it would get an AO rating uncensored.

          • KuroNathan

            This gets into the whole ultra violence vs sexuality debate and the double standards the US has. Also certain european countries have strict anti-child pornography laws that extends to cartoons as well (Netherlands, Poland, Sweden) and most of what was removed from Mugen souls and Monster Monpiece would fall under said law.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_cartoon_pornography_depicting_minors

          • Rock Volnutt

            >This gets into the whole ultra violence vs sexuality debate and the double standards the US has

            I get that, but the sort of sexual content in Mugen Souls and Criminal Girls wouldn’t get an AO, you’re kind of moving away from my point.

            >Also certain european countries
            Now you’re straight up moving the goalposts. In your first post you said “stateside”, and there would be no problem in releasing the game untouched in America. In Europe, yes, the game would not have been able to be released without alteration; while I don’t approve of censorship, at least there they would have a reason to do it. But in the Land of the Free it’s not an issue, and that was what we were talking about at first; there’s literally no excuse.

          • KuroNathan

            That would mean separate European and American versions then. Off the top of my head I can only think of large publishing companies that release different versions for different regions either due to economic reasons or publicity reasons.

            Bad publicity could also impact sales negatively, especially when the publicity is further highlighted by legally removed content. No one wants to have their game known as the child pornography game that’s banned in europe.

          • Rock Volnutt

            >That would mean separate European and American versions then.
            Yes.

            If there’s a separate European version, I don’t think it would be an issue over there because as it stands now they’re getting the censored version anyway.

          • Landale

            Time to drop it. You’ve been doing pretty much nothing but repeating yourself over and over again against pretty much everyone who doesn’t share your view on the matter, and you’re obviously rejecting any and all evidence against you. You’re not here to discuss anything, you’re here to rant.

          • Rock Volnutt

            I’m about done anyway.

          • KuroNathan

            I don’t know the industry intimately but I’d imagine creating two separate versions would be cost prohibitive for niche games like these. I can’t think of any games at all by mid tier publishers who create separate versions for america and european markets.

          • Rock Volnutt

            I see what you’re saying, and yeah it would be costly. I’d never thought of that, but you also have to consider releasing the game censored would also be, as NISA’s alienating a large portion of the people who would have bought the game who now aren’t. Mugen Souls is a testament to this.

          • KuroNathan

            Then you’re saying that you’d rather a game not be localized at all if it means censorship? You have much more artistic integrity than I do. But as long as you’re refusing to buy the game for the right reasons rather then attacking NISA then that’s entirely your choice.

    • MrTyrant

      Cut out content is never fine. Changing some manner of speech or part of the translation can be acceptable as long as the idea of the said dialogue is intact. In a game like this is preferable to not just bring it at all by all means the game has not much left to play neither, is not like you are playing a game like Xenoblade and remove a nude scene which still I wouldn’t find it acceptable but yet the games isn’t about that, it’s obvious.

      • KuroNathan

        Why is cut content never fine though? No one ever answers this for me they just blanket statement say its bad and never explain why its bad or whether or not its worth keeping the original content in liu of no localization at all.

  • Yagami Mao

    both sold ^^

  • Blesmi

    wow hotl#niq is digital only? That’s bullshit.

    • Brandonmkii

      It was primarily sold as digital-only even in Japan. Only the limited edition came with a physical copy iirc.

  • mike dickson

    Nisa you get my applause for bringing criminal girls to the west i love u guys even more

  • Bryce Ward

    Don’t like censorship buy the Japanese version. Translation ITSELF is censorship because they are altering/removing the original dialogue. When you accept the english version you are therefore accepting a censored copy. Don’t like censorship buy the english version.

  • PenguinPlayer

    Depending on the censorship applied by NISA, I will not buy the game. Sorry, not a fan of buying game with cut content, regardless of what NISA’s managers or anyone else think is the value of the content that was cut.

  • Hexodious

    I couldn’t care less about Criminal Girls, looks like a downright fanservice with stupid and boring gameplay.

    Firefly seems interesting at least.

  • Rollersnake

    Aren’t there, y’know, ANY good Vita games NIS could localize instead of crap like Criminal Girls?

  • BigBearMonte

    After reading the comments, everyone has this idea that criminal girls is going to be censored. I mean coming from playing the first game(a little) I can see why they say that but I was wondering were everyone getting this info about the game actually being censored? I couldn’t find anywhere in this post or original article saying anything about it? So does anyone have any evidence saying it going to be censored or is it all just guessing?

  • ShadowDivz

    It’s official. Anything is possible.
    Senran Kagura already made me believe that dreams come true, but Criminal Girls getting localized?

    CRIMINAL GIRLS GETTING LOCALIZED?!
    There’s a very high chance that I can fly.

  • Shinobikens

    htol is only getting a digital release..lame

  • Duo Maxwell

    Even in Japan there is only 10k retail release, you know, and the Japanese makes a big deal about physical medium more than the West. I’m not sure it will sell more than 500 physical copies outside Japan, honestly.

    Just glad it’s coming over.

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