Don’t Expect Any Sci-Fi Tales Games, Says Producer Hideo Baba

By Ishaan . August 19, 2014 . 4:02pm

Tales of series producer Hideo Baba recently answered questions from fans via the PlayStation Blog in Europe, and one of the questions he was asked was what his favourite books are.

 

Baba replied, “I have lots of favourite books but I would like to say ‘Jonathan Livingstone Seagull’ and ‘The Giving Tree’. Both books are not difficult but really heart moving so they are important to me.”

 

“In ‘Jonathan Livingstone Seagull,’ not only he uses his wings to catch prey but also he looks for the true meaning of flying with his wings that every bird naturally owns,” Baba continued. “His way of living is really impressive where he sticks with his conviction, even though he gets funny looks from friends around.”

 

“‘The Giving Tree’ describes ‘love’ and its shape, and the shape of giving love, through short sentences. This is a really thought-provoking book.”

 

Interestingly, Baba also says not to expect a sci-fi Tales game at any point in the future, since the series is known for a more fantasy-esque approach.

 

“I believe a story can be any storyline and can be described in any ways, but [the] Tales of series has been described in the adventure of sword and magic with the theme of storyline and its message, so if I have an opportunity to develop a sci-fi game, I would like to make it in the other new series,” Baba shared.


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  • https://www.youtube.com/user/LetsPlayerRPG Claytonred9

    Glad to hear he’s sticking to his convictions. Most people would just make a sci-fi game for a cash grab.

  • Suriel Cruz

    Your success is because people like what you do and the way you portrait this one. Sometimes listening to suggestions that doesn’t add to your way, doesn’t really apply and can be ignore. IMO.

  • Seraph

    Sci-Fi would be heading into Star Ocean territory wouldn’t it?

    God I missed that series.

    • Albel

      Me too….
      I would take a new star ocean before another tales, every single time.

      • Shippoyasha

        A lot of people bash the latest Star Ocean for its cast of characters and wonky story, but even that was a pretty damn good game from a gameplay perspective. I just wish Faize was the lead character (Anime Spock!), but the combat, music and cutscenes were nice. I just wish they didn’t write themselves into a bit of a corner with Star Ocean 3. I wish they soft-retcon that ending out.

        • samsneeze

          The combat in Star Ocean 4 gives most Tales games a run for their money. I haven’t played Star Ocean 3 so I don’t know how into a corner they wrote themselves. Though I think think if they wanted to retcon the Star Ocean 3 thing, all they’d have to do was say that the characters and events were based on real life. Then they’d just have pick up from outside of the virtual world.

          • Zen Grenadier

            Well they could do it like other games and completely ignore that hilarious twist they gave us in 3.

            Trying to keep spoilers to a minimum, but me and my friends found it hilarious that the final boss was a game designer nerd with a god complex. Just hope that if they make another SO they keep it within the spirit of SO2 but the awesome combat and customization of SO3.

          • Heropon

            I like that plot twist . Even Xenoblade use it

          • Zen Grenadier

            I didn’t really cared for it but I wasn’t at all like wtf like some people were. It was more like an “huh” deal.

          • LightZero

            Not really. Even then it was a far better executed in Xenoblade. Digital Devil Saga also use something similar to that plot twist and also did a far better job than SO3.

          • ALL HAIL KING BIMPY

            but xenoblade’s plot twist are done wrong from a writing point of view. they were withheld way too long and just ended up being exposition dumping that wasnt organic and really random and cryptic.

          • Zen Grenadier

            You could say the same thing about SO3 considering it threw the twist out of nowhere in a game that already has an established lore placed in by its previous sequels not to mention its grounded by our history already.

            It’s hard not to be a bit weirded out that histories greatest leaders, thinkers and heroes were just guys from another plane of reality trying to get a high score.

          • Seraph

            2 was in my opinion the best game. I liked 3′s system. In terms of story though.

            SO2 > SO3 > SO1 > SO4

            No mention: Blue Sphere.

          • Zen Grenadier

            3 had some crazy moments like when the Vendeeni shows up 1/3 through the game. Two nations having a medieval fantasy battle with dragons and shit. Then a space ship appears with fucking lasers wrecking the place and everyone going wtf. Gave me the giggles. I love shit like that.

          • http://blackstar2661.deviantart.com/ SilverSpades

            That game got me into the series.. boy was this a good series.

          • Zen Grenadier

            Yeah I wished I stated at SO2 but I was like 10 years old and poor when it was released. Hell I didn’t get my first ps2 until 2006. I was still rockin the SNES and a bit of help from emulation.

            I think the first next gen RPG I played during those times was FF7 the PC release by eidos back in the day. Like I was 9 during that time. And when I got my ps2 and started playing those RPGs I was drooling.

          • LightZero

            That plot twist ruin SO3 story IMO. If it weren’t for that it would had been the best.

          • Sorrior

            just saw it as say 4 being the 4th dimensional beings rebooting/relaunching their game after the guys from 3 broke free of the game confines.

        • Albel

          Yeah, like pretty much all tri-ace games, SO is all about the gameplay. And while I do agree with the notion that the story and chars of SO4 were a series low-point, for me personally that’s just not that important, when the gameplay itself is just that much fun. Well, I wasn’t a big Faize fan, so yea….what did piss me off however, was not getting to play Crowe -_-

          Unfortunately I don’t think we’ll see anything big from tri-ace any time soon, considering how squenix lately seems to outsource their final fantasy combat to them. So unless that was a 13-2/13-3 only thing…

          Anyways, every year at TGS I pray, and so I shall again next month ;)

          • Shippoyasha

            Faize had a lot of potential I thought, but we don’t even get to see him for a huge stretch of the game. So we don’t see him come out of his shell, like we would Star Trek with Spock. I thought that was a bit of a wasted opportunity.

            But yeah, I hope Square Enix gives them the ability to do one console game. I don’t worry about them serializing a bunch of games. I just want at least one effort on a console (or even handheld).

          • Albel

            Now that you mention it, I do think the game felt kind of, “rushed” after the first part? And by that I mean everything after Lemuris until Roak, where the pace once again settles nicely. And considering at first they also had Crowe in the ads as a playable char for the international version, I think it’s not that far fetched to say that they had to cut quite a lot of content.

            Well, at this point I’d pretty much take any console game from tri-ace, whether that’s a SO, VP or even something new with another publisher. I thought EoE was quite interesting too, after all…just no more handheld games for me please, tri-ace are doing that enough as it is <_<

        • WingsOfEternity

          Totally agree. Gameplay-wise it is in my top 5 PS3 RPGs. I’ve spent more time on SO4 than on Disgaea or Tales. There is a lot more to do in that game than it looks like. And the story… is not as atrocious as many people claim it to be.

      • Heropon

        I agree .
        Star Ocean are better than any Tales even the weakest installment like SO4.

    • Suriel Cruz

      Me too, but that’s up to tri-Ace & Square Enix.
      The last thing close to a new Star Ocean was back in 2011 and it was just a Technical DEMO from tri-Ace.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cuXgRVMvZ0

    • David García Abril

      “Star Ocean” is not exactly sci-fi.

      It’s a Space Opera.

      • Seraph

        Which is a subgenre of Sci-Fi.

        • David García Abril

          There a people who consider it a subgenre of Fantasy. :P

          Semantics: Screwing Internet discussions since 1995.

          Jokes aside, it’s just so people don’t expect “Star Trek” when they should expect “Star Wars”, so to speak. :P

          • Seraph

            Fair enough, fantasy and sci-fi are both genres of fiction so that’s understandable.

      • CirnoLakes

        You know, speaking of which, I feel like if the Tales team at Namco were going to make a “space opera” type RPG game, that it be more of a spin-off at least.

        I would actually kind of like it, in a way, if they did that, and worked with Tri-Ace to make a new sci-fi franchise.

        Star Ocean is nice, but I feel like it would be a good idea to start a new sci-fi franchise. And it would be so nice if Namco and Tri-Ace wanted to get along and work together on something like that.

        It would also be neat if Namco were to make a Tales-like games or a Tales game focused on transhumanism in general. Tales of the Abyss was focused on cloning. And lots of other technological issues have been brought up.

        So something more focused on transhumanism and posthumanism would be neat. But of course, transhumanism with magic elements.

        I guess that’s already kind of been done in many Tales games. But doing it as a more serious theme might be kind of nice.

  • Albel

    Well, we already kind of have/had that with star ocean, right?
    And by some of the very people that created tales nonetheless, so yeah.

  • Antonio Potter

    Funny to hear that, some Tales games feel even more sci-fiyi than they should. The series already has its own aesthetics and that is fine, but it’s starting to feel too extravagant for my taste right down to the premise.

  • Warboss Aohd

    You can have both Fantasy and Sci-Fi you know. Heck, Graces f was both.

    also, Square Let Tri-Ace make a new Star Ocean already, more like 1, 2, and 3 and very little to nothing like 4.

    • DesmaX

      Yeah. After Graces, I’d rather they never do Sci-Fi again

      • http://twitter.com/GNPixie Lynx

        Graces’s sci-fi stuff was fine.
        Heck, most of it was actually kinda neat.

        It was the characters that was the main problem, outside of a few odd ones. Those characters were just so…blah. They didn’t do much with them.

        • Lloyd Christmas

          I wanted to choke every party member… ‘cept for Pascal.

        • Warboss Aohd

          yeah, everyone but Pascal and Malik weren’t very good, the most trope ridden of the franchise, and not in the ‘we are gonna subvert the crap out of them’ kind of way alot of the other games in the series are.

          the combat was the best in the series. And the Sci-Fi bits of the story were kind of cool.
          Too bad Asbel was the most stereotypical JRPG protagonist of them all…….and Cheria another disgusting example of the Tsundere Trope, Hubert…….well, he was ok. Sophie was bascially just ‘Token Tales of Little Girl Character because reasons.’

          Which is a shame, cause parts of the story in Graces weren’t half bad, again like Lynx said, the problem lies with the characters whose names aren’t Malik or Pascal.

          • Ouch My Head Said Dionysus

            Hubert was a snooty little champ.

        • Guest

          i just bought grace. the characters so far arent annoying or 1D. not compared to other jrpgs like xenoblade where hardly any one had development and everyone were just walking tropes with the most childish scirpt ever for a rated t jrpg

      • landlock

        Funny enough after Abyss/Phantasia . Graces F is my fav. loved every minute really. More then a can say about Xillia that’s for sure.

    • landlock

      I believe they said SO4 was the last in the series which is for the best IMO.

  • Izzeltrioum

    If you don’t like Coca-Cola, there’s always Mountain Dew.

    Though they’ll eventually have to make some desperate 180º changes if they want this series to survive. Not now–slowly, just as it’s doing now. And if they really want to take a more serious/different approach with the genre, they could just make an entirely new IP.

  • ZnTxn

    And no one asked about Tempest R…

    • ZnTxn

      Edit: Or they didn’t choose that question ;___;

  • Spirit Macardi

    Really most of the games have some sci-fi elements. The Phantasia/Symphonia universe has magitech and aliens from another world. Abyss has cloning, computer code, and steampunk machines. Graces has space travel, robots, and nanomachines (son).

  • Kelechuckuw K.c.W

    I Don’t under stand what the means they already been dancing o the sci-fi parts especially with that last on e with luger and the rest in xillia 2

  • AlteisenX

    I’m actually glad because I don’t enjoy a full on sci-fi, I do enjoy how there’s little sprinkles of sci-fi in the Tales series though. Its such a great series, and I do hope we continue to get more (fan translated for older releases that wouldn’t be considered and official ones.)

  • http://resettears.wordpress.com/ Reset Tears

    I’m fine with Tales games never going full-out sci-fi and all, but I do wish the series would be willing to experiment with setting and characters more. The fact the producer here gave a flat-out “no” for this question feels a little indicative of the franchise’s tendency to stick to its particular formula. (Which may be fine for most people obviously; I just really value creativity in storytelling.)
    Edit: That said, were the Tales team to make a *new* series that took their gameplay elements and used them in an entirely different kind of story, that would certainly be interesting. I wonder how likely that would ever be though.

    • decus

      That’s sort of how Star Ocean came to exist in the first place, though the split happened after phantasia so now, in terms of gameplay, it’s really a poor man’s tales. And owned by SE and likely to never see new games. So it wouldn’t really surprise me if bamco did make a new sci-fi based series to go alongside Tales of’s.

      • Ouch My Head Said Dionysus

        Star Ocean 1 and Phantasia pretty much had the exact same plot, didn’t they? Except SO had a brief scene with a space ship.

  • Nitraion

    And i thought tales games was always sci-fi’s there is planet crossing or go to another planet in tales games…

  • landlock

    I thought there were bits of sci-fi already to be honest. Between the planet hopping. The second world in Xillia was also rather sci-fi like as well.

  • Mark Lengod

    I’m confortable with the already existing few sci-fi elements. Auldrant is basically a machine world that works with memory/sound particles, lol.

    Other games has their own elements too.

  • MrTyrant

    B…b……b…b…but mah beam sabers and magic! I wanted that and no, Star wars games is not what I’m asking specially since the old republic went full MMO now.

  • Chardo

    but tales of eternia is pretty sci-fi for half of the game and it was pretty popular, in fact, plenty of tales games have sci-fi settings (Aethersphere, alternate planets in many ones, etc)

  • LightZero

    Technically the series already has plenty of sci-fi elements. Personally I still would like to see a futuristic or cyber punk theme Tales game. I think it would be interesting to see how they would do it.

    • ALL HAIL KING BIMPY

      wow i can think of a cyberpunk story right now for tales of on ps4!

  • Mastery

    If Tales of Graces and Tales of The Abyss aren’t sci-fi, what constitutes sci-fi?

    • Wiccan1109

      Well, science fiction deals with futuristic settings, dependency on technology, advanced robotics, space travel, time travel, alien life. Whilst Graces briefly had a very scifi chapter (which i quite enjoyed!) it was by no means enough to dominate its very distinct fantasy genre. Xenosaga and Star Ocean would be good examples of a sci fi theme in JRPGs and Mass Effect from the west.

      I have to admit im a teeny bit saddened by that news. For a while i’d been hoping for something quite different from them in regards to the theme used. Maybe Zestiria will give us that with its medieval setting and the dragons but neither have really been shown yet.

      • HarakiriKami

        Setting is irrelevant. Tales games have felt like junk food for a while

        They really need to polish the technical feel of the games and play to their strengths of comedy in narrative

  • sakanaとkoeda

    Tales of the Star Ocean: The Hallowed Wings of the Eternal Tree

    Yeah…there goes that pipe dream.

    • CirnoLakes

      You know, I would love to see Wolf Team get back together.

  • Frank Bautista

    I wonder if Baba means “pure” sci-fi. Every Tales with sci-fi aspects were still rich with fantasy, which, IMO, is the perfect sweet spot for an RPG series like that Tales franchise. I don’t expect something like Tales of Gundam. I’m guessing his view of sci-fi is more on the line of that(modern/future setting with heavy focus on high technology like giant mecha and star jets, galactic federations and such).

  • CureMarine

    I get what he means, but there have been sci-fi elements in Tales games since Phantasia.

    • Steven Higgins

      I think he means Sci-fi as in how FF XIII was sci-fi, where it leaves almost all the typical fantasy tropes behind.

      • CirnoLakes

        I agree. I think that’s what it means.

        I often say things like how I liked Final Fantasy more when it was fantasy. And people often say that sci-fi was always a part of it. And other franchises, too.

        And that’s true. But I guess what I mean is that I don’t like sci-fi stuff to overshadow what’s good about fantasy. Even though Tales games have sci-fi in them, they’re still very fantasy games.

        And that’s what I like about them. I think that some sci-fi elements are a good thing. But I still want to feel like I’m playing a fairy tale.

        Tales of Symphonia had lots and lots and lots of technology. But it still had dwarves and elves and magic, and still felt like a fairy tale.

  • http://hatintime.com/ ShadowFang

    That’s what Star Ocean is for, people. Wolf Team created Tales, then left Namco, then made Star Ocean, then changed their name. Star Ocean is straight up your sci-fi Tales game.

    It’s also terrible now, so shush! :)

    Baba, do what you got to. You’re on fire at the moment. Just make sure you and your team get out there to promote Tales in as many regions as possible. I suppose the fact that Xillia was fantastic is all the promotion you need, but I really feel like Xillia 2 has been barely marketed by comparison. Hope it sells at least as well as the first one here in NA!

    • Tiredman

      Agree, that last Star Ocean was pretty terrible. Prior to that, part 2 and 3 were a lot of fun, so I won’t write Star Ocean off until I give it one more chance with part 5, if it ever gets made.

      Whats funny is I thought the exact same thing you posted, and was going to post it myself regarding Star Ocean being the sci fi action rpg.

    • Ouch My Head Said Dionysus

      You’re half right. Wolfteam stayed with Namco, but Gotanda, Asanuma and Norimoto left to form Tri-Ace. Wolfteam was finally renamed Namco Tales Studio a few years ago…and now closed I guess?

      But Star Ocean was horrible for sure! And with all the kings and dragons and swords, it’s not as sci-fi as it wishes it was.

  • Monterossa

    I never expected anything from the Tales series. It’s gonna be the same game over and over with new group of characters and a little bit different story but still have the same gameplay and settings.

    • Tiredman

      Its why I am still a fan. Final Fantasy showed what happens when you get carried away with fixing what isn’t broke, and it went from my favorite series period, to not even placing in the top 10 anymore. Still love the old ones, but I have no hope of good new ones.

      I like Tales of games because I know what I am getting into, with the combat style, item usage, and optional content. I know I am getting a full game as well, as they have not let me down in that regard as of yet. I own every console tales of game released in the US, started with Tales of Destiny I think, and beat all of them, and just plain enjoyed them all.

      • http://www.flavors.me/ericgornicki Eric Gornicki

        I have to disagree with you. Although Final Fantasy had it’s “golden age” on PSone, and it’s passing through difficult times, I think SQEX have to be praised for trying to innovate in EVERY new entry on the series, which Tales of series are lacking these days. The games are fun to play? Yes, most of them are really fun to play, but they all have a pretty similar structure. I like both the franchises, but I think they could “venture” more in the Tales of series.

        • Hound

          There’s marketing trouble when it comes to altering formulas too much within a given series instead of releasing a spin-off or alternate series:

          Many people purchase high-profile games based on their likes and dislikes of previous entries (not marketing or reviews.) When these expectations are not met with one title (Final Fantasy XII or XIII are good examples,) the entry that immediately follows will receive far fewer overall purchases.

          Why? People either wait post-release and purchase the game after a major price decline (usually a used copy since many will be available then) or they move onto another series that matches their original expectations.

          Personally, I wish Squeenix had instead given a different title to XII, XIII & XIII-2, and an additional monicker for Lightning Returns. This way, the gameplay change its-self is highlighted in the title (much like Tactics or TheatrRhythm) and purchases are made with this expectation instead. (so that fewer comparisons are made to the main series’ gameplay & mechanics, thus not clashing with personal opinions.)

          Super Paper Mario is another good example of a title clashing with consumer expectations based on previous purchases.

          • Tiredman

            I kind of agree with you, though if they did go that route, we would be lucky to get a main line Final Fantasy once a decade with their sluggish development cycle. In that amount of time, people would just cease caring after a certain point due to neglect instead of shoddy product. Course, guess that is better than the shoddy product as you can’t get over shoddy product while you can build extreme levels of hype with a popular IP that hasn’t been seen in a while.

        • Steven Higgins

          And yet, FF is loosing popularity in the west while Tales is gaining it.

      • CirnoLakes

        I completely agree!

    • Ouch My Head Said Dionysus

      I have the same gripe as you…but damn if they aren’t fun to play

    • CirnoLakes

      Well, there is a saying about not needing to fix things that aren’t broken, or something like that. Like the person called Tiredman said right below me.

      I feel like the Tales formula is amazing and really works. So I don’t think it needs changing.

      I think that small changes like they’re doing are better than big ones.
      I don’t want Tales games to lose what makes them good.

  • Tom_Phoenix

    I know what we’re ALL thinking…..man, that is one obese cat!

    • http://myvideogamelist.com/mylist/Katzedan katzedan

      that’s what makes him awesome :D

  • triablos

    Medieval > SciFi

    • The Watcher

      That’s like saying Dragon’s Dogma > Mass Effect. Which is false.

      • Brandonmkii

        Says you.

      • triablos

        Those are two very different games, I was talking about similar games in a particular setting. I.e. futuristic tales vs mediaeval tales, not star wars vs LOTR

        Chances are a lot of people like mass effect more, opinions are opinions.

    • 永次

      MedievalSciFi (aka Star Ocean) > ..

    • CirnoLakes

      I think that elements of both are good.

      But I feel like a lot of RPGs that move to scifi lose a lot of the great things that are wonderful in fantasy RPGs. Instead of having the best of both.

      I feel like there’s something so charming about fairy tale type fantasy that a lot of sci-fi focused RPGs don’t have.

  • ShawnOtakuSomething

    star ocean got that side,anyway move along

  • James Hewitson

    Sigh seems like Im the only one that loved Star Ocean 4, why is it I always seem to love the games that people love to hate on :-(

    • Anime10121

      I liked the gameplay (which was damn near cut and paste from 3) but the story and characters were pure garbage to me :/

    • 永次

      One of the best games ever, the gameplay, world, ost, content, graphics… were freaking awesome. The characters and story were good, not as good as SO1-3 stories (since Gotanda wrote himself the story for SO1, SO2, SOBS and SO3) but a good story.

  • Yan Zhao

    We already got Sci=Fi Tales games.

    It’s called “Star Ocean”.

    • Anime10121

      More like we HAD a Sci-Fi Tales game called Star Ocean…

      Before Square seemed to cut their ties with Tri Ace :(

      • CirnoLakes

        Yeah.. I miss Star Ocean… :<

  • Dolly

    erm…i thought the one where i got into a hidden spaceship left by an ancient sentient race living underground to go to a planet full of technology that abused a planet until the very nature of that planet fought back itself. that had a race they also tried to manipulate into some form of weapon and later cloned was pretty sci-fi to me or maybe that was just me xD; not to mention your companion is also a robot that develops conciousness of its own. in other news i am still wounded from that square enix countdown teaser page that looked like star ocean news T-T.

  • Luis Edgar Flores Gutierrez

    Maybe they don’t want to dumb out the franchise like Final Fantasy by including sci-fi elements just to please certain audiences…

    • ALL HAIL KING BIMPY

      What that doesn’t make sense. Picking a genre doesn’t equal less quality in the storytelling. The latest tales of games already have sifi elements. They aren’t standard High Fantasy like Witcher. Star Ocean is a lot more sifish when talking about stereotypical sifi themes. Star Ocean is the closet thing to an all out sifi Tales game.

      • Luis Edgar Flores Gutierrez

        What I’m trying to say is they don’t want to catter to Western audiences (especifically American ones) by playing safe like Square Enix has did with Final Fantasy by including too many sci-fi elements and possibly alienating Japanese audiences along the way. That’s the reason why the Tales series are always made for Japanese audiences in mind first, rather than being global like the FF series are.

        • Ric Vazquez

          Word

        • MakoSoldier7

          lol are you kidding me? sci-fi is just as popular in japan as it is in the US, as it is here, and i dont know of anyone in america who is asking for this. This question coincidentally came from europe.

          • Luis Edgar Flores Gutierrez

            I was referring towards the Final Fantasy series, not about the sci-fi genre.

          • MakoSoldier7

            you were saying that the FF series pandered to Americans by including sci fi elements. which is baloney.

          • Luis Edgar Flores Gutierrez

            It’s more complicated that you think: By including too much sci-fi elements, leaving aside the medieval fantasy, or at least, the Japanese interpretation of the genre, maybe SE is playing safe by not including stuff that could alienate Western or American audiences, at expense of alienating their own Japanese audience. There’s a reason why the Tales series are nicknamed “J-pop RPGs” because they use lots of elements tailored towards Japanese audiences, rather than trying to pleasing worldwide audiences like Final Fantasy.

    • Endymion Nathanael Rose

      I have to disagree, i don’t think one can juxtapose and compare the totality of the Final Fantasy Ouvre with the Tales of series…i like them both, but if one of them could be considered “dumbed down” it’s hands down Tales of. I don’t believe the visual and storytelling elements in FF wich can be considered sci-fi was there simply to please a particular insulated group of fans, that doesn’t make any sense, if there are any elements in the FF series that can be considered to be sci-fi in origin, they we’re there because the creative team behind the games wanted it to be there…and another thing, the series is called Final Fantasy. Anything goes. It’s absolutely Fantasy, for all intents and purposes. Things may look like something you may think you have seen somewhere else, and somethings may seem like they should be refered to as science fiction, but there has never been anything remotely akin to science in the FF series. it’s all pure Fantasy, and it’s not dumbed down…yeah, maby the last true masterpiece was Final Fantasy IX, but i haven’t given up hope, and still, they all look amazing, and when you think about all the work that has been put into them, even the ones you probably didn’t enjoy as much, you still have to applaud them for trying. Even though i agree that the FF series has lost something, they still make incredibly unique games that are filled to the brim with extreme revolutionary visuals and original storytelling ideas…let’s just not be unreasonable.

  • thnkgod4mentlillness

    But… Tales already has a lot of sci-fi elements and themes… If it got any more sci-fi it’d become Star Ocean…

    That wouldn’t be a bad idea actually. Namco Bandai should buy the rights of Star Ocean from Tri-Ace and Square Enix since they aren’t doing jack shit with a great franchise. Then they wouldn’t have to worry about making a sci-fi story Tales, because they’ll have Star Ocean.

    • Endymion Nathanael Rose

      Exactement, that was my initial thought aswell. A lot of JRPG’s incorporate some kind of “ancient technology” or similar ideas, that’s a typical concept, and there are almost always some kind of sci-fi elements…althought science fiction technically denotes an extrapolation of currently existing technology, the term sci-fi has become pretty elastic as of late, even star wars is considered sci.fi, when it is purely fantasy, and real science ficiton fans knows this, but i digress, i can’t think of a single JRPG without some kind of super advanced technology weaved into the story one way or another. The tales of games allready consist of those elements wich would be, by most modern gamers, to be sci-fi, so no need to worry about that shit, it’s allrady been done. But i agree with you, Bandai or someone needs to get a hold of the rights to Star Ocean, because…where the hell is star ocean 5? But i don’t think it’s dead, they released a tech demo a couple of years ago, and i think they are working, in secret, on something delicious. But one thing i thought was rather strange, the way Mr. Baba said that the tales games are known for their, essentially sword and sorcery style storytelling and setting, and because of that he can’t promise to make a sci-fi oriented tales of games in the future…that’s just bleak…the tales games aren’t known for their classic swords and sorcery settings, they are known for their generic japanese fantasy/quasi sci-fi settings, and if they had in fact been classic european swords and sorcery type games, having a pure sci-fi approach would be really cool…but it’s all nonsene, it will never be pure western standardized fantasy and it will never be science fiction, it will, probably always be classic tales of…wich is simply a variation of the classic JRPG fantasy setting, and there is nothing wrong with that…..

  • CirnoLakes

    As much as I’m a fan of things like sci-fi like with robots and stuff. And I’m a transhumanist myself.

    I kind of like the fantasy Japanese RPG setting. I like dragons and dwarves and fairies and castles and things like that in RPGs.

    A Tales game in a sci-fi setting would be kind of like Star Ocean, anyway.
    You know, I wouldn’t mind Tri-Ace and Namco working together again. It would be neat to see Tri-Ace help work on a Tales game. And see Namco help work on a Star Ocean game.

  • Solace

    I find that a bit surprising, considering so many Tales games have felt like they kind of wanted to be sci-fi halfway through.

    I prefer fantasy, I just find it interesting that they’re not actually entertaining the notion of a sci-fi Tales game, when they do tend to put some sci-fi elements into so many of them.

  • Warboss Aohd

    because they were by far the blandest, most trope ridden in the series sans Pascal and Malik.

  • LightZero

    Because apparently they haven’t played many Tales games if they can say the cast is the most “cliche or trope” ridden. Honestly I don’t really pay attention to the Graces hate anyway. Some just has stupid reason to hate on it. AnywayI like the cast just fine. They are easily in my top 3 along side Legendia and Vesperia cast.

  • Warboss Aohd

    i said the game itself was good, but the Characters are it’s biggest flaw. That isn’t hate, that’s criticism. If i hated it, i wouldn’t have beaten it, bonus chapter included.

  • Tom_Phoenix

    While that is true when talking about gaming in general, I would argue that (pure) sci-fi is rather neglected in terms of RPGs. Most of those tend to be fantasy themed with perhaps some steampunk or cyberpunk elements. I actually wouldn’t mind seeing more RPGs with a pure sci-fi theme.

    That said, I still don’t think that changing an already established fantasy RPG series into a sci-fi one is a good idea. Like Baba said, it’s better to start a new series for something like that.

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