Square Enix Bringing Final Fantasy XIII And More To Smartphones Via Streaming

By Ishaan . September 8, 2014 . 10:41pm

Square Enix have announced a new cloud-streaming service in Japan, called Dive In. The service will let Japanese smartphone owners stream games like Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy VII to their smartphones and tablets.

 

Dive In will launch on October 9th, and will include the following games at launch:

 

Final Fantasy XIII:

3 days – 250 yen (plus tax)

10 days – 510 yen (plus tax)

30 days – 1,250 yen (plus tax)

365 days – 1,800 yen (plus tax)

 

Final Fantasy VII International:

3 days – 200 yen (plus tax)

10 days – 400 yen (plus tax)

30 days – 1,000 yen (plus tax)

365 days – 1,429 yen (plus tax)

 

Season of Mystery: The Cherry Blossom Murders:

3 days – 150 yen (plus tax)

10 days – 300 yen (plus tax)

30 days – 800 yen (plus tax)

365 days – 1,185 yen (plus tax)

 

Each game will come with a free 30-minute trial, and Square Enix have plans to add more of their titles to the streaming service. Here’s what they’ve announced so far:

 

November: Final Fantasy VIII, The Last Remnant

December: Final Fantasy XIII-2, Murdered: Soul Suspect

Sometime in 2015: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII

 

The Dive In streaming app will launch October 9th for iOS and Android devices. A list of supported devices can be found on this page. Square Enix say a 3MB Wi-Fi connection is required, but recommend that a 6MB connection be used for best results.


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  • bob

    the transition to cloud gaming… it begins.

    • César H. Sandoval

      With clouds and lightnings!

      BAH-DUMM-TSHHHH

  • Kango234

    AHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • 하세요

    What did I tell you? She always, always returns.

  • Randgriz

    The Last Remnant.. now theres a game id like to try again

    • Naryl

      I would recommend the steam version of that, I bought it in summer sale for 3$. Also the PC version is the improved game, they added tons of stuff.

  • Xerain

    Pretty sure FF7 could run normally on some phones.

    • nobitakun

      Pretty sure ff xiii can run smooth on some phones, hence mid range 2015 ones.

      Wait…pay per view? Or more like…pay per play? What is this?!? I do not think is legally ethic in any religion. Why not just a service that allows the user to play everything with minor costs? Anyways, streaming games is a crazy thing in a world where internet connection and speeds are totally randomized depending where you live. A plug is a plug wherever you are, and even with that we experience problems of voltage and so on, can’t imagine streaming games…

      But, how is a company going to manage a good service if even google can not give us youtube as a nice one? (Slow loading videos, errors, etc). No one company in the world can hold millions of connections of streaming like playing games…a nice dream but unable to complete now. Maybe in 15 or 20 years…

      • Xerain

        It’s not pay per play. It’s the same subscription model that has existed for MMOs like forever. It runs off of servers, and S-E needs to pay upkeep on those as well as bandwidth. I believe it’s reasonable to make an analogy to the costs involved with running an MMORPG, once you take new content development out of the equation.

        $18 for a whole year of access isn’t that bad, and it’s certainly cheaper than Sony’s Playstation Now.

        Or you could just buy the disc for $18 and play it on a big TV the way it was meant to be played. Though you could still do that if you’re lucky enough to have a phone with HDMI out.

        • nobitakun

          18$ for a whole year means i lose 18$ for sure after a year, and that is someway crazy. I buy the game physical and i can sell it.

          As for mobile phones with hdmi those are every mobile with jelly bean 4.2 and a TV with dlna. Nowadays, low cost DLNA TV’s exist, so it makes it more absurd to pay that money for playing an old game that is not yours and its cost is cheaper if you buy at a shop physicaly.

          Good luck with your robbery SquareEnix! ;D

          • Xerain

            It’s actually not going to be robbery. It’s more likely to be a horrible failure that incurs serious losses for them when no one is willing to subscribe to a game they could buy outright for the same cost.

            meanwhile S-E loses tons of money because it actually does cost that much to run this service.

  • Lightning Returned

  • Rodrigo Oliveira

    I don’t get it, FF XIII will be available at lauch yet it’s going to be released 2015?

  • Warukyure

    Too bad it doesn’t work on PS3. Then we can finally say… The Last Remnant comes to PS3 lol.

    I hope this doesn’t work. SE needs to focus on new content, not 50,000 ways to rehash it.

  • Wait what

    Rather than everyone throw a hissyfit that they dared to include FFXIII in their streaming options, I think people should be focusing on the real issue here. Square Enix is trying to create their own version of Playstation Now… a service nobody likes due to it’s bad pricing and lack of value to the consumer. What a stupid service to emulate.

  • M’iau M’iaut

    Folks — if all one can do is continue to ensure the world remains fully aware of your hate for a video game character or that you take it as a vehemently personal affront what piece of plastic and metal someone else uses as a gaming device…take it elsewhere.

  • RmanX1000

    Square. Stop. Please. Im a fan of FF13 and even i am sick of how much love Square gives it.

    • Carlos Roberto

      There’s a market for the series and Square is aware of this. Why should they ignore the market?

      • RmanX1000

        I would love to know who at Square found the one person that wanted an RPG that got lukewarm reception AT BEST on mobile.

        (And just to clarify, i have no issue with mobile games. I even play a couple decent games that’re available there. But specifically FF13…? Mmm…)

        • Carlos Roberto

          Hundreds of thousands of persons. Mobile gaming is huge in Japan.

          • M’iau M’iaut

            Let’s leave things here. Thanks.

  • Eric

    I thought the original ff 13 was a solid game. Not groundbreaking but it was the next step forward in the active time battle system. The story was fiddled with anime-rpg tropes that have always plagued final fantasy.

    I don’t like being tied to the cloud though. I’m a little skeptical about all this cloud gaming that seems to be slowly creeping up on the industry.

  • Leon Magnus

    Lightning again? oh wait, it’s just the same Lightning.

  • I wonder how many localizations they could have funded instead of investing in this inevitable failure.

    • Godmars

      What do they have to localize?

      • Weeb

        Pretty much every Dragon Quest game released in the past few years.

      • dboyz

        FFT0…

  • Albert Brian Gimao

    Wrong: “Sometime in 2015: Final Fantasy XIII”
    Correct: “Sometime in 2015: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII”

  • triablos

    Damn, 6MB WiFi connection for best results? I had no idea the requirements were so low for game streaming. My internet is about 14MB.

  • CirnoLakes

    I hope that all this cloud gaming is a sign that internet services are going to get a lot better in the near future.

  • Armageddon

    It’s cool in paper, but trust me it is not as good as it sounds. If streaming is going to be the future of gaming we are screwed. What I mean by this is:
    1. Constant internet connection
    2. You “basically” subscribe to play their games
    3. You do not own the game
    4. If you in a country like say “Philippines” which has like 3 Mbps(As a standard for common folk) you will get lag
    5.You do not own the game( I know, just wanted to emphasize this very important fact)

    • CirnoLakes

      Well, even if you don’t own something, streaming is a serious convenience that should be emphasized as much as you’re emphasizing not owning something.

      You should be able to own things digitally, including Streams if the technology can reach a point where it’s affordable for you to “own” a stream.

      If you can own things physically, it should be possible to own things digitally. And that includes services like streams, you should be able to pay to have a right to certain services. Right now, while it’s feasible to have a right to physical things you’ve bought, like songs on Google Play or games on Steam, it’s not so much with streams. But I think that as technology advances, it should be possible to own a stream to a game.

      Though there may be things that need to be overcome to reach a point where people can not only own things digitally, but cloud services like streams, too. Not just technologically, but perhaps legally.

      However, technology is exponentially increasing. And if we are to treat piracy as “stealing”, both legally and morally. Then it is just as important that all game purchases be treated as you “owning” them. And that consumers are treated fairly and given the same legal rights to what they have paid for, whether digitally or physically. And that should be possible with streams someday.

      Technically, there aren’t already enough rights of ownership even given to owning things physically. There are all sorts of restrictions that people have tried to make, like not being able to copy your game more than a certain amount of times. Technically, according to many laws, you don’t own physical items as much as you should.

      But either way, at least morally, if piracy is stealing, then a purchase is a purchase. And if you buy a game on Steam, you own it. Of course, streams are different, at least right now. Steams are more a modern version of renting. But renting things is still worthwhile, especially with the convenience of cloud streaming.

      But if cloud is going to be the future of gaming, that’s actually a good thing. And being anchored to physical distribution will only keep us in the dark ages technologically. And pushing fear of change is only going to be harmful.

      Customers are always going to want to “own” things, or have a right to use and have access to them. That can exist in a post-physical distribution age. And cloud providers are going to want to start providing ways for customers to own streams.

      But cloud gaming isn’t the future just yet. Right now the future that is replacing owning games physically, is owning games digitally. Owning gaming digitally is the near future of video games that is going to totally replace physical distribution. And digital ownership is going to become more and more important.

      Meanwhile, the developments in “cloud” technology are really exciting. And hopeful, rather than something scary. What’s scary is many people holding onto traditions of physical distribution that are holding everyone back. It should be just as emphasized how much of a step forward and positive revolution technologically, that benefits everyone, that moving away from the obsolete technology of physical distribution will make things more convenient, easier, and better for everyone.

      And I fear that fearful posts like yours are holding everyone back.

      • Rohan Viajar

        I am sorry, but I read the whole thing and it sounds like a paper I would write for my English class. A whole lot of fancy words and long sentences just to make it seem convincing.

        Don’t get me wrong. I actually don’t care if people wanna do cloud gaming. I mean to me cloud gaming is like netflix.

        • CirnoLakes

          That doesn’t sound like a very good criticism. :x

      • Armageddon

        It’s not a fearful post. Cloud is not something everyone can enjoy. Heck, I don’t like the idea of always online, I sure im not the only one who thinks; that its better to play offline for a SP game.
        Don’t get dragged in by the hype that how they make you buy it. Then. after a while when you think it wasn’t as you thought, you’ll feel stupid for falling for it. I just want to spare people some grief here or atleast let them know what their getting themselves into.

        • CirnoLakes

          who don’t like to keep as many things nearby to have access to… well… everything. Both online and offline games.

          The advantages for a single player game could be that you could have augmented reality contact lenses. With that, you wouldn’t need to carry anything on you at all to play games, except maybe some kind of controller.

          With technology like that, you could hop on a train or a bus, go to a hotel or a campground, go to a beach or some fun place, and be playing the same video game the whole time. Or many different video games. With some way to control them that’s waterproof, you could even go underwater in your bathtub or a pool or at the beach and still be playing video games.

          Disqus ate half my post. Sorry that some of the stuff I needed to say isn’t here.

          • Armageddon

            off topic now….

          • CirnoLakes

            I don’t think so.

            How is it off topic?

          • Armageddon

            Augmented reality.
            As far as I can see it wouldn’t you rather swim in a pool or beach and take a nice and peaceful bath? You don’t need to play everywhere you know

          • CirnoLakes

            I don’t think so.

            Because I think that cloud computing and augmented reality are going to be ubiquidous, or everywhere, and used together all the time.

            I think that most people are going to want augmented and virtual reality. And it’s going to be something that makes game streaming more popular than ever.

            Augmented reality is an important part of the future of cloud gaming!

          • Armageddon

            As far as I can see it wouldn’t you rather swim in a pool or beach and
            take a nice and peaceful bath? You don’t need to play everywhere you
            know
            I know that’s copy paste but you completely ignored that part.

          • CirnoLakes

            I want augmented reality.

            And I would like to be able to travel and be “mobile” whenever I want to. Without having to choose between video games and staying up a room somewhere with a monitor or TV, or going out and being active.

            More options and convenience is never a bad thing. I want augmented reality. And even if I’m not always playing video games or watching anime, or listening to music or something like that. I want to be able to have the option to do it when I want to, and I’m sure many people do. I shouldn’t have to go in a room in a house and turn on a PlayStation in order to play a video game. That’s archaic. And that’s why the Game Boy was invented.

            Why do I have choose between things? Having less options is never good.

            Which means I do think you should still be able to own things. And that physical distribution should still exist, if only just for tradition and nostalgia. But I don’t think that physical distribution should be the norm when it’s an obsolete technology. It should be a novelty and we should work towards better things.

            Personally, I do want to spend lots of time in augmented reality. I’m not sure how much of that time I’ll spend playing games. I already spend a lot of time playing games. So probably a lot.

            You sound like you’re arguing for having something less good and convenient, because it could be done too often. To me, that’s like arguing that the Game Boy shouldn’t have been made, because people could just go home and turn on their Super Nintendo if they wanted to play games. Even if you don’t need to play games all the time and everywhere. Having more options is always a good thing and have less options is always a bad thing.

          • Armageddon

            Off topic ,again. Not cloud.
            What’s the point of going out if you just play video games? You will just be in the way.
            This is the last response you get from me. Your just spinning things around and changing the subject.

          • CirnoLakes

            The point is that we’re living in a world where traveling is becoming easier and easier. We have more and more transportation, and we’re living in a “mobile” age. Everyone has a cell phone, people travel, soon we’re going to have self driving, solar powered electric cars lots of places. Completely solar powered planes already exist. And there are already planes and cars and trains and buses everywhere already.

            There’s so much to see and do in the world. And for the first time in history, everyone is connected. Why waste that?

            I think it’s fine whether people want to spend years at a time traveling the globle, or spending every day at home, on a computer, inside virtual reality, living their lives on the internet. I think it’s sad that some people are against either of these things, because they’re both ways that people can live their lives and be happy.

            Whether you live your life in virtual reality, never going outside. Or go outside and spend all day every day outside, walking and traveling and playing and meeting people outdoors. You can enjoy both. And virtual reality and augmented reality is going to make both of these things better.

            And I don’t think you’ll be “in the way.” It depends on where you are and what you’re doing. With augmented reality, anywhere can become that “room” that you played console games on. As long as it’s a safe place, anywhere is fine. It’s no different from playing games on a Game Boy. You won’t be in people’s way if you use your Game Boy responsibly. I don’t see how there are any problems here with playing video games with augmented reality that don’t apply to the Game Boy.

            “Your just spinning things around.”
            I’m just telling the truth and sharing my perspective, that’s all.

          • Armageddon

            What part of this is cloud gaming and how does this relate to what I was saying earlier when all this started?

          • CirnoLakes

            Cloud gaming is the, what people call the “logical outcome” of mobile gaming as technology progresses.

            You were saying that cloud gaming is too much hyped and too little criticized. When it seems like most people who hype cloud gaming are visionaries. While people critical of cloud gaming are often traditionalist gamers, who aren’t thinking of the future of gaming and how things could or should change a lot for the better.

            Cloud gaming is less beneficial to most people if you just think about traditional consoles. Which a lot of people are afraid of games moving beyond.

            But figuring out all the amazingness of cloud gaming means being a visionary and thinking of the future. In the future, you’ll be able to enjoy any type of game, anywhere, and on anything. That’s a big step forward over traditional consoles.

            That’s a really big revolution that I don’t think can be hyped up nearly enough. Travel and interconnectedness is the future, and so is “networking”, or the cloud. People are going to be on the go more than ever before, but people are still going to want to play games.

          • Armageddon

            Ok, now I know there’s no point in arguing with you.You did not answer the question. You make makes your words seem intelligent but all you do spin things around and and change the subject.
            Tell me where’s the point in all the wall of text?

          • CirnoLakes

            But I did answer your question. How did I not answer your question?

          • Armageddon

            Ok, tell me, what was the question?

          • CirnoLakes

            “What part of this is cloud gaming and how does this relate to what I was saying earlier when all this started?”

            “Don’t get dragged in by the hype”

          • Armageddon

            Wrong, you defined cloud gaming I know that much.
            You did not answer what part of this:
            “The point is that we’re living in a world where traveling is becoming
            easier and easier. We have more and more transportation, and we’re
            living in a “mobile” age. Everyone has a cell phone, people travel, soon
            we’re going to have self driving, solar powered electric cars lots of
            places. Completely solar powered planes already exist. And there are
            already planes and cars and trains and buses everywhere already.

            There’s so much to see and do in the world. And for the first time in history, everyone is connected. Why waste that?

            I
            think it’s fine whether people want to spend years at a time traveling
            the globle, or spending every day at home, on a computer, inside virtual
            reality, living their lives on the internet. I think it’s sad that some
            people are against either of these things, because they’re both ways
            that people can live their lives and be happy.

            Whether you live
            your life in virtual reality, never going outside. Or go outside and
            spend all day every day outside, walking and traveling and playing and
            meeting people outdoors. You can enjoy both. And virtual reality and
            augmented reality is going to make both of these things better.

            And
            I don’t think you’ll be “in the way.” It depends on where you are and
            what you’re doing. With augmented reality, anywhere can become that
            “room” that you played console games on. As long as it’s a safe place,
            anywhere is fine. It’s no different from playing games on a Game Boy.
            You won’t be in people’s way if you use your Game Boy responsibly. I
            don’t see how there are any problems here with playing video games with
            augmented reality that don’t apply to the Game Boy.

            “Your just spinning things around.”
            I’m just telling the truth and sharing my perspective, that’s all.” is about cloud gaming.

            2ndly: How is this:

            “The point is that we’re living in a world where traveling is becoming
            easier and easier. We have more and more transportation, and we’re
            living in a “mobile” age. Everyone has a cell phone, people travel, soon
            we’re going to have self driving, solar powered electric cars lots of
            places. Completely solar powered planes already exist. And there are
            already planes and cars and trains and buses everywhere already.

            There’s so much to see and do in the world. And for the first time in history, everyone is connected. Why waste that?

            I
            think it’s fine whether people want to spend years at a time traveling
            the globle, or spending every day at home, on a computer, inside virtual
            reality, living their lives on the internet. I think it’s sad that some
            people are against either of these things, because they’re both ways
            that people can live their lives and be happy.

            Whether you live
            your life in virtual reality, never going outside. Or go outside and
            spend all day every day outside, walking and traveling and playing and
            meeting people outdoors. You can enjoy both. And virtual reality and
            augmented reality is going to make both of these things better.

            And
            I don’t think you’ll be “in the way.” It depends on where you are and
            what you’re doing. With augmented reality, anywhere can become that
            “room” that you played console games on. As long as it’s a safe place,
            anywhere is fine. It’s no different from playing games on a Game Boy.
            You won’t be in people’s way if you use your Game Boy responsibly. I
            don’t see how there are any problems here with playing video games with
            augmented reality that don’t apply to the Game Boy.

            “Your just spinning things around.”
            I’m just telling the truth and sharing my perspective, that’s all.” related to this:

            “It’s cool in paper, but trust me it is not as good as it sounds. If
            streaming is going to be the future of gaming we are screwed. What I
            mean by this is:
            1. Constant internet connection
            2. You “basically” subscribe to play their games
            3. You do not own the game
            4. If you in a country like say “Philippines” which has like 3 Mbps(As a standard for common folk) you will get lag
            5.You do not own the game( I know, just wanted to emphasize this very important fact)”

          • CirnoLakes

            You want me to re-explain every response I’ve made towards you and how it relates to every little original point?

            That’s a very one sided conversation you’re supporting. I don’t know of too many people who are expected to explain and rexplain themselves over and over for people who don’t agree with them…

            Those were lots of various points for different parts of the conversation. And that would be very time consuming for me.

            Perhaps we should stop this conversation like you said was a good idea. It sounds like if you disagree with me you want to nitpick things a lot. And we’ll end up talking in circles a lot.

          • Armageddon

            All question I’ve made can be answered directly with a few sentences to get to the point. The point is your changing the subject from cloud gaming to augmented reality to augmented implants to virtual reality to cloud gaming again. If that’s not spinning it around I don’t know what is.

          • CirnoLakes

            Some questions can be answered simply. And I do admit I say a little bit too much, hehe.

            But some things don’t have simple explanations. Occam’s Razor doesn’t work well in biology.

            Other technologies like augmented reality are a part of why cloud gaming will be so great and so important.

            You’re making out a cloud gaming future. When it’s not. And going into wearable technologies and the movement to a more mobile future with ubiquitous augmented reality is important in explaining why

            This isn’t any kind of “spinning around”. Cloud gaming and augmented reality are the future. And cloud gaming in augmented reality is the future. Cloud technlogy of all kinds and wearable technology like augmented reality glasses are very closely related.

            So it’s important to discuss these technologies when discussing why or why wouldn’t cloud gaming be a very good thing that is consumer friendly.

          • Armageddon

            “You’re making out a cloud gaming future. When it’s not.”

            here’s your other response:
            “Cloud gaming and augmented reality are the future. And cloud gaming in
            augmented reality is the future. Cloud technlogy of all kinds and
            wearable technology like augmented reality glasses are very closely
            related.”

            It seems you, yourself do not agree with yourself.

            If you think that cloud gaming is the future that’s cool just know that YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

          • CirnoLakes

            Well, I don’t agree with your warnings.

            And I actually think they’re a little bit harmful. Because they make a cloud gaming future seem worse than it is.

            And I don’t want people to be discouraged from supporting cloud gaming.

          • ishyg

            For me, I’ll take cloud gaming than no gaming at all.

          • CirnoLakes

            “What’s the point of going out if you just play video games?”

            I feel like I should spend more time responding to this. And there’s a simple way to say it.

            I didn’t say you’re “just going to play video games”. There are all sorts of things you can do at home or traveling and being out.

            Having the option is always good. Whether at home or out of home. The Game Boy was created so you didn’t just have to play at home or in an arcade.

            You could just as easily say “what’s the point of staying home if you’re just going to play video games”. Since luckily, now, you can do only playing video games in both places.

            The point is that going out is good. And it gives you more options for more things to do than just playing video games. There are all sorts of places to explore and things to do.

            Like, if go to the beach, and I love skimboarding and surfing. And I surf all day, and I’m tired, but I have work soon, so I can’t just go home and play Tales of Symphonia. So I could go sit and play Tales of Symphonia until it’s time to leave for work. Right now, what I could do is play a game on a 3DS or Vita or a tablet or laptop while I’m waiting. But in the future, I could hopefully play any game.

            It’s kind of like the reverse of being able to do more things at home. Like being able to shop at home when before you had to go shopping someplace. You could say, “why shop at home when you could just go out and shop?”. But having the option to shop from home is always helpful.

            The point is not to do just one thing like video games or something like that. The point is being able to do what you want to do, when and where you want to, and easy or more easy.

            And cloud gaming is going to help with that a lot.

          • Armageddon

            How does this relate to this:

            “It’s cool in paper, but trust me it is not as good as it sounds. If
            streaming is going to be the future of gaming we are screwed. What I
            mean by this is:
            1. Constant internet connection
            2. You “basically” subscribe to play their games
            3. You do not own the game
            4. If you in a country like say “Philippines” which has like 3 Mbps(As a standard for common folk) you will get lag
            5.You do not own the game( I know, just wanted to emphasize this very important fact)”

          • CirnoLakes

            Constant internet connection required isn’t a good thing. But I don’t think that’s going to be the future. I think it’s going what most people want to use to play video games eventually.

            But people like keeping traditions. There will always be sundials, and vinyl records, and analogue watches, and things like that.

            But before too long, constant internet connection is not going to be something required of everything to play games, it’s going to be a free service available to everyone in the world. The internet and computers are going to be ubiquidous.

            So games that require a constant internet connection, like streamed games, will not be a problem. Because everyone in the world will always have access to the internet.

            Subscribing isn’t a problem, but this model might be a problem for Square Enix because maybe not enough people will be interested. I think that the PlayStation Now will be successful, at least in a few years. There are already a lot of subscription things that people love.

            And you don’t really own the game now. But that’s not too bad because renting games is still something good. If it’s cheaper than buying a game, many people will want to rent instead. I think it’s good to be able to rent and buy games at the same time. A lot of people, in the end, want access to games. If this gives people cheap and convenient access to games, a lot of people will like it.

            And in the future, people will probably be able to buy games streaming anyway.

            And I don’t think the “you don’t own it” isn’t as important as you make it out to be. Since consumer rights are always changing. Technically you don’t have as many rights as you should even if you own things physically. Consumer rights should extend to streaming, too.

            As for the Philippines and other countries with internet connections that could be better. The internet is getting better all the time, and it’s getting better everywhere. I feel like, in the next 20 years, everyone in Australia will have free, fast wifi internet, everywhere.

          • Armageddon

            Again;How does this relate to this:

            “It’s cool in paper, but trust me it is not as good as it sounds. If
            streaming is going to be the future of gaming we are screwed. What I
            mean by this is:
            1. Constant internet connection
            2. You “basically” subscribe to play their games
            3. You do not own the game
            4. If you in a country like say “Philippines” which has like 3 Mbps(As a standard for common folk) you will get lag
            5.You do not own the game( I know, just wanted to emphasize this very important fact)”

            Can you not make yourself look intelligent by making roundabout arguments and get to the point?
            Ah screw it,im ending this with some lyrics to a song:

            Live in ignorance
            And purchase your happiness
            When blood and sweat is the real cost
            Thinking ceases, the truth is lost
            Don’t you worry
            You’ll be told exactly what to do
            I give my people the lives they need
            The righteous will succeed

            The fires of greed will burn the weak
            So we’ll make freedom obsolete
            Making whole the fabric of society
            Collective consciousness controlled as you will see

            http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Collective_Consciousness

          • CirnoLakes

            Except that I’m not making roundabout arguments.

            Instead of responding, you’re claiming that I’m not answering questions, making roundabout arguments, and saying stuff about stuff being dreams. :/

            I just responded, pretty simply, to each one of your original points again. It relates to what you just quoted… because… it’s a direct response to… all of that. Each one of them.

          • CirnoLakes

            “but trust me it is not as good as it sounds. ”

            This is something hyperbolically negative, which you presumably attempt to support by these points.

            “1. Constant internet connection”

            And then I responded to that by this:

            “Constant internet connection required isn’t a good thing.”

            Which was a small concession that you were a little bit right. You shouldn’t need to be online to play a single player game.

            But that fast internet access is becoming more and more ubiquidous. And that this isn’t as bad as you’re making it out to be. You’re implying that, if the future is cloud gaming, we’re in trouble, because of things like this.

            But because internet access is getting better and faster and easier for everyone, this isn’t really a problem at all.

            “But before too long, constant internet connection is not going to be
            something required of everything to play games, it’s going to be a free
            service available to everyone in the world. The internet and computers
            are going to be ubiquidous.”

            So not only is this on the topic about what you said about the constant internet connection. But a direct response to your implication that it’s negative or a problem.

            But instead of this, perhaps I should respond to your points with questions instead.

            What’s negative about needing a constant internet connection? And why would a future where streaming games is common and you need a fast internet connection to play them be a bad thing?

          • Armageddon

            You don’t get it do you? constant internet is REQUIRED for streaming games.

          • CirnoLakes

            “constant internet is REQUIRED for streaming games.”

            But…. I basically just said just that. Like, that’s exactly what I said. What would make you think I don’t get it?

            I was just saying I don’t think it’s a bad thing. I mean it’s not like it’s not something that everyone in the world isn’t going to have access to soon. So why not use it for single player games as well as multiplayer games?

            I mean, if it’s a technology that everyone has available to them and is ubiquidous, why not use it?

          • Armageddon

            Because you said:
            “”But before too long, constant internet connection is not going to be
            something required of everything to play games, it’s going to be a free
            service available to everyone in the world. The internet and computers
            are going to be ubiquidous.”
            NOT required? that’s contradicting yourself. When you have already agreed that internet is required for stream play.

            It’s not needed now so lets keep it that way.

          • CirnoLakes

            I made a typo. Actually, I probably should have worded that sentence or paragraph or whichever it was better.

            If I wrote “”But before too long, constant internet connection is not going to be
            something required of everything to play games”, then I made a mistake. Sorry.

            I think that there will always be games that aren’t streaming exclusive. I’m sure that most games that don’t need streaming won’t be streaming exclusive, unless customers themselves decide to abandon non-streaming media. I’m sure that even when streaming becomes really popular, digital distribution that isn’t streaming will still be really popular. Stuff like Steam I except to be popular for a very very long time.

            An internet connection of course is require to stream something. That’s a fundamental part of the technology.

            What I’m saying is that more games should be available on this technology because it is the future. And it’s a very good thing that it’s the future.

            Because a required internet connection isn’t a problem if everyone has one.

            “It’s not needed now so lets keep it that way.”
            Well, I think that we should always support older media. Like Steam, I always want Steam to stay around, even if we can stream everything.

            But at some point I think not doing things on the cloud is only going to be a novelty, and won’t really have many benefits. Sometime after 2045, some are expecting us to abandon our bodies altogether and upload our conciousness into the cloud. There’s no point in local storage if a local you doesn’t even exist.

            But I guess I’m getting off topic again. For the moment, I think what’s most convenient for most people in countries where games are most popular is owning things through digital distribution. And by that I mean things like Steam and GoG. And perhaps also things like Google Play.

            But streaming is definitely the next stage of video games. And everything. And I think it’s best to invest if what will be the future of video games now, instead of later.

            Sony, Square Enix, and Nvidia, are all investing in cloud gaming, because they see this is where the future of video games is.

          • Armageddon

            OK I get it, But as far as being “ubiquidous”is concerned your opinion will change if you know what’s happening around you.

            “The fires of greed will burn the weak

            So we’ll make freedom obsolete

            Making whole the fabric of society

            Collective consciousness controlled as you will see”

            http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Collective_Consciousness

          • CirnoLakes

            “opinion will change if you know what’s happening around you.”

            I know what’s going on around me. That’s why I have the “opinion” that I do.

            The internet may be lacking in a lot of places. But technology is accellerating exponentially. And many important people invovled in the internet are pretty confident that the internet is going to change a lot in the next 20 years. And both ubiquitous computing and internet is very very close.

            If you disagree that ubiquitous internet is in the future. Well, a lot of very educated and influential people at Google, Microsoft, Facebook, Qualcomm, Intel, Nvidia, and many IT companies disagree with you.

            And I can see that you’re a fan of Metal Gear. And that’s nice, but it’s just a video game. The patriots or whatever don’t exist. And I’m not sure that Kojima has had much more to say on this subject than most other dystopian science fiction writers.

            Unless that’s just fun to you because you’re a fan and you want to post Metal Gear stuff all the time. I know that Metal Gear has been something inspiring for many people. And many video games have been for me, too.

            I’m not sure it’s very good in this argument or discussion or whatever, though.

          • Armageddon

            “If you disagree that ubiquitous internet is in the future. Well, a lot
            of very educated and influential people at Google, Microsoft, Facebook,
            Qualcomm, Intel, Nvidia, and many IT companies disagree with you.”
            and here’s yours:
            “But before too long, constant internet connection is not going to be
            something required of everything to play games, it’s going to be a free
            service available to everyone in the world.”
            Depends of what you mean by everywhere and as far as free is concerned: You nuts, who is gonna maintain the ISP?

            I know what’s going on around me. That’s why I have the “opinion” that I do.
            You only know the glittery stuff so I’ll let time open your eyes if your lucky.

            As far as metal gear is concerened, it fits what’s happening for those who can read the silver lining im putting in or it could be totaly nonsense from an alien from outer space.

          • CirnoLakes

            Then we just disagree about the future of technology I guess.

            I guess we’ll see in the next 20-30 years or so how things will change.

          • CirnoLakes

            At some point, augmented reality glasses, contact lesnes, and eye implants, are going to be ubiquidous. As in, they’re going to be as common as cell phones.

            We need a cloud gaming future for this.

            People aren’t going to want to carry around a heavy stack of Blu-Rays on them at all times.

          • Armageddon

            Ever seen a 1 tb flash drive? that’s how big the storage media going to be, even smaller perhaps.

          • CirnoLakes

            True, and I’m sure that people, will augmented reality eye implants, will probably make other augmentations to their bodies.

            Someday, people will probably be able to fit exabytes of data in their bodies. As amazing as terabyte flash drives are, 128 GB microSD cards are even more impressive. That’s the size of your fingernail.

            I’m personally looking forward to 10 TB microSD cards. And ones that have a faaast transfer rate of many many many gigabytes per second.

            But carrying stuff on you always has limits. And at some point the “cloud” is just more convenient. I think that using both local and non-local technology to their full potential is the best idea.

          • Armageddon

            Ever played Deus Ex: Human Revolution? If you have, then you know where im going with the whole augmented implants.
            Or perhaps ghost in the shell? You know that episode where there was this guy that was murder and when they saw the evidence of a photo of him and there was somethin odd about it? There was no camera, the criminals took a picture of what the victim saw.
            Hence, they hack the guy and saw everything he saw.

        • CirnoLakes

          Let’s see, what part did I say that Disqus deleted by freezing up on me.

          Oh yes.

          The cloud is something that everyone will be able to enjoy soon. Even the poorest countries.

          The internet and computers are becoming more and more ubiquidous. I think games should still be available offline. But at some point it’s just going to be more convenient to access video games from your contact lenses.

          Before too long, everyone is going to be able to use super-fast internet. Even the poorest people.

          • Armageddon

            Do you honestly not want to have you games on a disk? You know you can’t always play the games you bought simply because its not within hands reach. It in a server far away from you. And on the slight chance the net goes out bye-bye game(until it goes back-on gain) After all, physical copies in a sense is better than digital.

          • CirnoLakes

            To be honest, I’d like to have implants, and have all my favourite games available locally. But I always also want cloud gaming as an option.

            To have all my favourite games, movies, shows, music, and things like that locally, I’d need many many terabytes.

            “And on the slight chance the net goes out bye-bye game”
            I’m looking forward to the internet growing to a point that that stops happening altogether.

          • Armageddon

            Now your just talking to yourself.
            “that stops happening altogether”
            In your dreams, Humans are far from perfect for that to ever happen. Mistakes will always be a part of life.

          • CirnoLakes

            I think you’re underestimating technologicaly progression.

            Technology is getting better and better. And personally, I trust a very advanced server maintained by many, than just me, with my data.

            And there’s going to be a lot of more and more advanced technology that will go into maintaining servers.

            At some point, cloud storage is going to be more safe and reliable than local storage. I don’t think this is a dream, I just think that it’s technological progress.

          • Armageddon

            It’s still a dream, after all everything in existence is prone to failure as some point. Nothing in the world is free of flaws. You put too much faith in technology to the point where you’re blinded thinking it can do no wrong. Reality check, mistakes will happen.

          • CirnoLakes

            Well, that was uncessarily rude. I’m sorry, but you’re wrong.

            And don’t be giving people “reality checks”, that’s rude.

            And it’s true that everything has flaws, but a network of computers has more reliability and backup than one. And networks are getting better and better.

            At some point, the amount of things that can and probably will go wrong are so unlikely to happen that it’s worth putting trust in your data being, “in the cloud”, rather than worrying about the very unlikely chance that something will go wrong.

            Saying “never”, may be hyperbole. But at some point network, or “cloud” storage and computing and so forth, is going to be exponentially more reliable than local storage.

            Perhaps rather than “never”, I should say instead, “more than a trillion times more reliable, and more than a trillion times less likely to be lost or even inaccessible”.

            At that point, there’s no point in having the games locally “in case the servers go down”. Because it would be more likely for your local data to become corrupted than for the servers to lose the data, or for you to lose access to the servers.

          • Armageddon

            “Because it would be more likely for your local data to become corrupted
            than for the servers to lose the data, or for you to lose access to the
            servers”

            The data is mine and my responsibility. I’ll take my chances rather than rely on online services that ANYONE can have access to and by anyone I mean hackers. At least my local data is safe when im not using because im not connected to the net.

            “At that point, there’s no point in having the games locally “in case the servers go down”.”

            Why would I rely on servers if my games are in storage locally?

          • CirnoLakes

            Well, that’s good for you, I suppose.

            But I don’t arbitrarily want more responsibilities than I need. And there’s no point in having responsibilities for sake of it.

            No matter how hard I try, there are things that I won’t be able to do as an individual, as well as a group can.

            I will say that no matter how responsible you are, at some point local data is going to become a lot less safe and secure than network or “cloud” data.

            “Why would I rely on servers if my games are in storage locally?”
            Because at some point, probably fairly soon, it will be a lot more safe and secure there.

            At some point, local only storage is going to be lots more unnecessary responsiblity, with no benefits at all.

          • CirnoLakes

            “Why would I rely on servers if my games are in storage locally?”
            What if someone makes a game that uses and exabyte of storage? What if several developers make games you want to play that use more than an exabyte of storage?

          • Armageddon

            I don’t see how your question relates to mine.

            Still, By that time they(consumers) would have had the hardware needed. After all what publisher would send out a game that cannot be bought and if its cloud imagine the speed needed.

        • CirnoLakes

          Another thing, along with the fact there isn’t enough hype for this.

          Most people who are interested in cloud gaming, are plenty aware of both the upsides and the downsides of the emerging technology.

          If anything, there is too much anti-cloud stuff out there. From people who are too pessimistic, uninformed, and wish to treat cloud gaming as another form of anti-consumer DRM, because they’re afraid of change.

          • Armageddon

            Uninformed,pessimistic? It is worst than DRM. It’s a subscription not a purchase. You saw the prices and the duration. This is just the start. There are rumors going about that next-gen(after the ps4) will be streamed games and this seems to be the beggining of it.
            You are just another person in the pen to them.

          • CirnoLakes

            There’s nothing wrong with a subscription. I would not say it’s worse than DRM. It’s a unique, special, and very beneficial service for many customers.

            “here are rumors going about that next-gen”
            Rumors are just rumors. And even if that’s true, I think that’s a very good thing. I totally support it if the technology is ready then.

            If it doesn’t work out for Sony, I’m sure there are other companies who will want to sell people games in ways that aren’t streaming stuff.

    • Pyrofrost

      You’re right, it’s not ownership, it’s a subscription service. Digital ownership and a digital subscription service are two different things.

      It’s not like anyone is having the wool pulled over their eyes here, I honestly fail to see the problem.

      • Armageddon

        I just don’t want to people to get drag-in by the hype, that’s all :D

        • CirnoLakes

          To be honest, I don’t think there’s as much hype as there ought to be for this sort of thing.

          In the future, this will allow me to play video games in contact lenses or eye implants, without even having to have a lot of disk space on me.

          Once wifi becomes faster and more ubiquitious, it sounds like a fun way to play Final Fantasy XIV or Tales of Zestiria or something on a train.

          • ishyg

            I’ll test if this can be handled by 4G once it comes out.

          • Armageddon

            Wouldn’t you rather focus playing those rather than play them on the go? There is a time for everything you know.

          • CirnoLakes

            You can’t always be alone and secluded.

            I think you can focus on a game, and be on the go. It’s getting easier than ever.

            Has playing games on handheld platforms stopped you from enjoying them? Would you rather play Pokemon on a console than on a handheld?

            I’ve always thought it would be fun to play Pokemon underwater.

            I think that the freedom to be able to play your favourite video games, watch your favourite movies and shows, and listen to your favourite music, anytime you want to, is a dream come true.

            And it’s getting easier all the time.

          • Armageddon

            “I think you can focus on a game, and be on the go. It’s getting easier than ever”
            Do you want to get hit by a car?Maybe, you’ll even hit a person by accident.
            You shouln’t play everywhere, just not practical. A time and place for everything.

          • CirnoLakes

            Why wouldn’t what you’re saying apply to the Game Boy?

            All technology has to be used responsibly.

            Anyway, by the time that augmented reality is ubiquidous, I think that self driving cars will be ubiquidous, too.

            Augmented reality gaming will be better place places and safe things. Not in the middle of the road. Though another good thing about augmented reality is that it will be able to make us safer. There will be “apps” that will help you pay attention to potential dangers around you.

            Augmented reality will not only tell you about cars behind you and things like that. But how fast they are going and how close they are to hitting you.

        • Pyrofrost

          I can see where you’re coming from.

          While I honestly don’t mind a fully digital era *le gasp*
          I feel the future give us the ability to choose between digital ownership and streaming, or opt for both.

          I don’t think streaming will be left as our only option. Of course, I may be wrong, as I can’t see into the future.

          • CirnoLakes

            Yeah, I think that a streaming future is a more distant future than something for right now. The technology is kind of ahead of its time. And even when most people can stream their games cheaper and without latency problems, a lot of people are still going to be buying their games.

            And even when people can buy stream and have access to it, basically as long as the company or whoever owns the servers are around. A lot of people are going to still be using things like Steam, the PlayStation Network, Google Play, GoG, and things like that.

            I’m not planning on abandoning Steam anytime soon. And unless Steam ever becomes totally obsolete, I’ll happilly keep using it.

            And I’m happy to meet others who support digitial distribution.

          • Pyrofrost

            As am I! Nice to meet you Cirno!

            I’m always happy to make a new friend, especially one with similar interests ^_^

            I’m happy I decided to post on this article now.

          • CirnoLakes

            Yay! Similar interests!

            I’m so happy to meet you, we seem to have things in common. And you seem very nice.

          • Pyrofrost

            Aye, we do! And I can say all the same stuff about you fellow Tales fan ^_^

            You’re welcome to friend me and we can get to know each other more and possibly play games and stuff together if you like.

            My PSNs: Pyrofrost & ShinkuTachi

            FB: https://www.facebook.com/PyrofrostTheJRPGamer

            Twitter: https://twitter.com/Pyrofrost

    • ishyg

      “If you in a country like say ‘Philippines'”

      Are you from the Philippines? Because I totally know what you’re talking about with the slow internet. Ours used to be 1 Mbps, and it was already mind-blowing at the time, until I moved to Japan.

      • Rohan Viajar

        I remember when I was little I had to either buy internet cards from a local “sari-sari” store. or stay at the nearest netcafe.

        • ishyg

          Ahhh, those dreaded cards. I remember hearing static-y sounds on the phone whenever we used those. Net cafes are the best route at the time, since they always have the stable lines for reasons unknown.

      • Armageddon

        First country that pop-in to my head thats all. Besides they said 3MB not 3Mb. How many times slower do you think that is?

        • Janrabbit

          Mega Bytes are used to convey storage space and Mega bits are used to convey transfer rates…

          My point being it is most likely a typo by the writer of the article as the difference between the 2 is rarely realised and so they meant 3Mb connection.

          • Armageddon

            Connection speed dude or was it net speed.

          • Janrabbit

            Both. Data transfer rates are what you are referring to whenever you use the word “speed”.

          • Armageddon

            ok thanks, still slow speed if you compare

          • ishyg

            Yeah I’m often confused by it too. Thanks for clarifying it up for me.

        • ishyg

          Probably typo, like @janrabbit:disqus pointed out hours ago.

          Haha, if that’s the first country that popped in your head then we really must have horrendous connection rates. Well, there was a comparison article about it, Philippines vs the rest of the ASEAN countries, and we have both the most expensive and slowest connection rates.

      • Downloading games at 300KBPS was already teh fastest for me. How fast is it in japan? (in terms of Dl speed)

        • ishyg

          I can’t really say as speeds differ, but currently our connection is at 50Mbps. Fastest we got here on consumer price is probably the Nuro one, 2Gbit fiber optics connection.

  • Bio438

    I’m hyped. This means inevitably I can play every FF on my tablet, maybe not 6 but at least every other one. Hopefully there will be some yearly subscription instead of per game but the prices aren’t bad.

    • Janrabbit

      FFVI <3

      • Bio438

        Great game but the android version’s sprites aren’t ideal.

        • CirnoLakes

          I like the Android sprites.

          Terra is really cute.

          • Bio438

            Hmm I might give it a go once I’m done with DQ8.

          • Janrabbit

            I think it’s just a step too far for me and looses that nostalgia. I’m sure it is still an enjoyable game like but I have a PS1 emulator lol

  • Seven of The Scions

    I’m using 10mbps internet in Indonesia, with LAN cable connected to my PS4 and tried connection test for PS Now…

    Still bad connection it said…

    I’ll pass this streaming service for the time being.

  • aizen310

    And, of course: FF13 and FF7 yet again.
    This is just funny. I ain’t even mad anymore, in fact, this made my day. This is really a prime case of hardcore ignorance :/

  • Warboss Aohd

    Square Enix…..just…..just stop with FF13.

    That series was poorly received by many. We get it, you have an unhealthy obsession with Lightning, but you need let her go and move on. Fans don’t want more FF13……….though they DO want more FF7, and i myself would love some more FF9. More FF Tactics (War of the Lions, not the handhelds though those are still good.) and FF10 would also be fine.

  • AoC

    Where’s that PC port, SE? I know you’re slowly edging towards it, just announce it already.

    • CirnoLakes

      As much as I’m not a fan of the game or the game series. Or even that much of a Final Fantasy fan… I like Dragon Quest and Tales more…

      That would be pretty great. I would play the game a lot more on PC than on the PlayStation 3. And having options for 4K would make the game look better than ever before.

      The game was kind of focused on graphics anyway. So what a better fit than putting it on the PC with lots of graphics options?

    • Ni ~Algidus~

      it got canned alongside some pretty cool stuff that were showed the 2006 trailers

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myirvgl5Cfk

  • pokeslob

    Oh, if they can release Last Remnant on this streaming thing out of no-where, they can release the last remnant on PS3 or 4 now ;)

    • Warboss Aohd

      Last Remnant could use more love, i loved the idea of my Party Being an Army. More RPGs (both Western and Japanese) could stand to do that.

  • Black Heaven

    Hmm, the way I see this, it’s just like PS Now, with a more reasonable price.

    SE’s ¥250 for 3 days is easily more of a deal than PS Now’s current $5 (¥531) for 4 hours. As such, we could think of it as an online rental… that relies on your bandwidth reliability. T_T

    Would it be better for them if they just integrate their streaming services with PS Now? Or are they seen as competition and thus the less reasonable prices on the other side…

    Personally, I am not fond of cloud-streaming gaming, as I live in that part of the world where ‘fast and reliable broadband’ is a fleeting dream of luxury. Plus, me and my bros like building a library of games that we own. :)

    Edit: Just a Fridge Horror… first PS Now, then EA Access, now Dive In…
    To Activision, Ubisoft, Capcom and everyone else, please don’t

  • Dark Zerato

    For one second, i’ve thought that SE is porting FFXIII to phones. They surely want to bring Lightning to every device they can.

  • Armageddon

    Just so you guys know: I like lightning. That tough love act(or is it tsundere?) shows she really cares.

    And in my opinion FFXIII was misunderstood. The thing about it being rigidly linear on the first part and open world after a certain chapter is closely tied to the story of how life is on those two worlds.

    The paradigm shift is a welcome addition to the ATB system in my book. changing class mid-batlle is pretty fun.

    • Seth Hoffman

      I think you and me just became best friends. I’ve never found anyone who actually realized that the story was so closely tied to the linearity that it actually makes sense.

  • James Robert Thompson

    Now you can play the marathon simulator while running a marathon!

  • Slickyslacker

    I’m interested in when Matsuda’s Project FLARE streaming platform will see its day – there’s something that genuinely intrigues me.

  • I wonder who would like to play a game that runs for 50+ hours on a smartphone…and I still don’t get how the controllers are going to work…there’re lots of buttons to use on FFXIII.

  • Yan Zhao

    …really? A subscription based service to play FF13….? When the real game probably cost 10 bucks now?

    Is this stuff really gona sell?

    • iron_maw84

      …The entire point of this service just went over your head huh?

      So tell me, can you currently play FFXIII on the go for $10 ANYWHERE?

      • Sylveria Shini

        Better question, why would you want to?

      • Yan Zhao

        Oh right, I forgot people were just DYING to play FF13 on the go.

  • Herok♞

    I think this is an interesting prospect for Square, regardless of whether or not you like the games that they decide to try the platform on it would be interesting to see how it will work, like I can see playing the earlier Final Fantasy’s on Mobile it will be interesting to see how they change around their games from later gens to work.

  • Göran Isacson

    … Okay, I gotta admit- I’d like to see how you manage to pull off XIII on a smartphone. Like, playing it won’t be too hard- the mechanics could probably be done on smartphone, I just want to see if they’ll downgrade the graphics or devlier a functionally identical version of XIII for an iPhone.

  • Quan Chi

    No can keep, no buy xD

  • Wow, my main concern would be how streaming such titles would affect my phone’s battery life, data plan (although I reckon phone contracts are different in J-land compared to the US), and longevity.

    I’ve had phones become bricks due to semi-constant music streaming (oh, how hot it would get), so I wonder what sorts of issues may come up after folks binge on something like FFXIII…

    • M’iau M’iaut

      I have your new twitter followed — just nothing to follow :p.

      • Yeah… I implore you to remain patient. When we’re ready to announce/show what we’re planning, the deluge of updates will begin. Right now, we’re amassing assets… ;)

        • M’iau M’iaut

          I promise to be patient.

          • Hehehe, excellent! I wish I could give a ballpark date, but I can’t nail it down any more than “before the end of the year, hopefully”…

  • chosen105

    this sounds cool but im kinda curious on how well it will perform on my phone. Kinda curious how good it will look as well, im not expecting to look as a ps3 but it would be cool if it did.

  • Bakuryukun

    Actually given how FFXIII’s battle system works it’d probably be a good fit for mobile platforms now that I think about it.

  • SupaPhly

    but smartphones can easily run FFVII, they don’t even need to stream it

  • Sylveria Shini

    And thus the full plan of FF13 is revealed. Why is the combat so simple? It was designed to be ported to smart phones. Why is the story terrible? Phone games don’t need story. No world to explore cause a phone couldn’t handle it. So on and so forth. Now I finally understand why its so bad.. it was a phone game that was ported up to the PS3 only to be ported back down to phones.

    • Nisx

      The FFXIII seires had an amazing story,in fact caius is 1 of my
      most fav villians from the final fantasy series.
      the problem were the battle system –

      FFXIII – repative x button gameplay,”no side quests” , chars
      always leave the party .

      FFXIII-2 – great game but to short, annoying mini games (the casino), all the “great” secret boss that add some challnge to the game come as dlc files which u have to purchase.

      Lightning Returns – annoying time system, same place over
      again and again, repative gameplay, tons of unnecessary
      side quests, only 1 playable char.

      u just make it sound like it were the worst game of that year
      but next to the others jrpg it were one of the best,
      the graphics were amazing, story was great the battle system and the quests were the only lack thing if u compere it to previous Final Fantasy games.
      but the final fantasy seires were always about select one of
      the skills from the menu to attack its more about tactics gameplay then controls use like on action games, its an rpg game and it was
      missing on FFXIII.

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