Monster Monpiece Coming To U.S. And Europe With Some Changes

By Ishaan . January 21, 2014 . 8:45am

Monster Monpiece, Compile Heart’s lady-stroking Vita game, is coming to North America and Europe, Idea Factory announced this morning. The game will be available as a download title this spring. Here’s a brief summary of the game’s story:

 

God’s hammer struck twice, punishing the world of Yafaniel below…

 

In the world of Yafaniel, humans and an unusual species called “monster girls” coexist. May Esperio, an Academy student from Kunaguva, is training hard to become a “master” of monster girls with her best friends, Elza and Karen. However, after an encounter with a mysterious stranger, Elza became “Lost”, a victim of a strange affliction that plagues both humans and monster girls.

 

Elza and the monster girls in her service have begun stealing the Magus Quartzes that are held in each of Yafaniel’s major cities. May decides to travel the world pursuing Elza in an attempt to cure her. However, May knows that if she fails to save Elza, the whole world may be destroyed!

 

Monster Monpiece is a card-battle game with RPG elements. “Monsters” in the game take the form of monster girl cards, which you can rub via the Vita screen to remove their clothing and strip them down to bathing suits. Regarding some of these cards, Idea Factory say they’ve removed some of them from the game, due to their “strong sexual nature”. Here’s their statement in full:

 

Idea Factory International, Inc. would like to inform fans and prospective users of Monster Monpiece that we have made the decision to remove several Monster Girl images from the North American and European versions of Monster Monpiece. The gameplay, game system, and storyline are fully intact and Idea Factory International strives to localize and publish Idea Factory titles with the same content as their Japanese releases.

 

Here is the list of Monster Girls whose images have been limited to that of their level 1, 2, or 3 evolution form due to the strong sexual nature of the card images: Vampire, Kraken, Goblin, Cockatrice, Kobold, Skeleton, Titania, Bahamut, Fia, Brownie, Pegasus, Mandragora, Mau Sibau, Rafflesia, Death Scorpion, Phantom, and Tengu.

 

We fully understand that there are needs and demands for the complete version of these games. Our intention and motivation is to offer Idea Factory titles in a form that is as close as possible to the Japanese versions. This was a tough decision, but we would greatly appreciate your understanding and support.

 

Monster Monpiece will have over 100 cards. We’ll have more on the game in the near future. You can visit the game’s official website here.


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  • Herok♞

    That’s reasonable in my opinion, I rather we get a game with minor changes then no game at all, so if something would be to much for the market then I will take their word for it. Also does anyone have links so I can see what was changed?

    • http://epiclyamazing.wordpress.com/ AzureNova

      Yeah, I agree. Even though I’m okay with the changes, I’d still like to see what’s changed as well lol

    • SprintsMcGee

      Wow, that is the complete opposite reaction about the game from what I saw on Gematsu lol. I’m with you though. As long as the core gameplay mechanics are there and it doesn’t affect the balance of the game or the story itself, then if they need to censor the game a little to bring it here then that’s fine…. as long as it’s within reason.

      • shadowind

        As I believe somebody once said; “Sacrifices have to be made for the greater good!” and if this means that this game gets a few images removed, then so be it!

    • Hound

      These are still in-game:
      http://ebten.jp/eb/p/monpiece/monpiece_card2.jpg
      http://ebten.jp/eb/p/monpiece/monpiece_card3.jpg

      The forms on the right have the images censored to their 3rd forms:
      http://ebten.jp/eb/p/monpiece/monpiece_card1.jpg

      Left (goblin) is limited to the first 3 images, right (salamander) has all forms in-game:
      http://ebten.jp/eb/p/monpiece/monpiece_card4.jpg

      • KnifeAndFork

        Jeez… That one brown haired character looks like she is 4 years old.

        What goes through the mind of these artists lol

      • shadowind

        I’m a huge hentai fan myself, but at least I understand why the game’s getting censored here in the West unlike some of the people posting here… (BTW, thanks for the picture links! *thumbs up*)

      • AkiraScare

        Theres stil hope then (*_*)

    • Shippoyasha

      It’s not reasonable in my opinion. I think it’s good to get a release but bathing suit level fanservice and some cheesy ‘touch the fantasy anime girl’ as ‘strong sexual content’ is seriously upsetting as to how they categorize something so benign to be something so dangerous that they keep it out of localization.

      Not all games should be babying little kids on their content. And it’s seriously patronizing to the niche audience that are interested in the game to begin with. It is like we are sliding back to the 90s and early 2000s level of excessive and kneejerk censoring of games.

      I would be lying if I said I am comfortable with this. I am happy for localization but I feel like I am getting attacked with a baseball bat at the same time. No censorship ‘makes sense’.

  • http://epiclyamazing.wordpress.com/ AzureNova

    18 out of over 100 isn’t that bad at all. While I do hate censorship, I’m happy that they took the time to explain why they came to this decision, and asked for an understanding among consumers. I for one am happy that we’re getting the game at all, and this will not deter me from buying it.

    • Landale

      Assuming I’m understanding this right, each has 3 forms. So really there’s 300+ images correct? Given that the wording indicates they’re not being removed completely, it’s more like 18-36 of 300+, so 6 to 12% removed?

      • http://epiclyamazing.wordpress.com/ AzureNova

        I understand what you mean, but I meant it as in they removed the images. Not the actual cards themselves lol

        • Landale

          I understood what you mean, I’m just wondering if it’s roughly 100 images or roughly 100 cards with 3 images each. While it doesn’t change the exact amount of removal, it does change the overall percent of what’s been done if that’s the case.

          • http://epiclyamazing.wordpress.com/ AzureNova

            Very true, but I was under the impression that it was just their final form images that were taken out. So wouldn’t that be only 18 images related to the 18 monsters that they stated above?

          • Landale

            Well, I don’t know what each image looks like, so it may not be limited to just 1 image per card. Anyway, I’ve got to go out for a bit, so it’ll be a few hours before I can respond anymore if you intended to continue this.

          • http://epiclyamazing.wordpress.com/ AzureNova

            Same, I have to get ready for work. I enjoyed the conversation though lol =)

          • Sigfried Silverblade

            It was staed that some cards will be limite to rank 1, the first image.
            So, some cards will lose more than one picture.

          • http://epiclyamazing.wordpress.com/ AzureNova

            Ah, now I see. Thanks for clarifying =)

          • Landale

            Limited to the rank in image, but not the actual ranks themselves. But otherwise, yeah.

    • Shippoyasha

      Taking out 20% of the cards is ridiculously big to me. I would have been aghast at one card being censored. I have no words when they aim to censor so much. A niche game for niche audiences and getting babied like this. It’s just a shame.

    • shadowind

      I agree with you in that it’s understandable that it’s only 18 images that’s being removed and that I too am happy that it’s coming out here (and yes, I’ll be playing it on the bus!), but the way certain people are acting like the game’s not fully complete because some images have been removed for obvious reasons puzzles me greatly.

  • 無尽合体ブランタコブスキ

    Why didn’t they just do an R18 rating or something?
    That’s their target audience anyway

    • Hound

      The game is currently rated M. Ao ratings are incredibly bad for sales (and such games are barred from sale in most open markets.)

      And if any of the cards mentioned feature characters that are obviously considered to be under 18 in appearance, but pose an overly strong suggestive or sexual nature, the game could be banned outright.

      They left most of the images in, so it seems like the changes were necessary for some cards.

      interestingly, the Pegi rating is 12+ after the change

      • Cazar

        But do such niche localizations as this even get stocked in retail stores in the first place?

        And what laws are in place that would actually lead to a ban on the game?

        • Sigfried Silverblade

          Not sure, but I guess they could push that some content is borderline child pornography.

          • Cazar

            At least in the US, not sure about Canada and European countries, erotic loli illustrations still fall under the first amendment and are not illegal. And these are not even fully erotic, just highly suggestive. But if the game was only sold through online retailers and not on store shelves it’s unlikely any controversy would arise in the first place. And I would imagine that that’s how the game is going to be distributed anyway.

            But I guess what’s done is done, and I honestly don’t really care much either way. I’m just speculating out of curiosity.

          • Sigfried Silverblade

            Yep. The game will be only digital.

          • KnifeAndFork

            It has to pass ESRB and then Sony of Americas requirements

        • Hound

          The game will be sold through Playstation Network via the playstation store. If content is not approved of by either ESRB or Sony, it could easily be removed or barred from release.

          • Cazar

            Ah, yeah then. That’s one facet I forgot to consider. I was just thinking about retail sales; I forgot about PSN and their day one digital requirements.

          • M’iau M’iaut

            The console companies have all been pretty much united on one thing — they won’t allow an AO game for their systems. They don’t want the door opened for any fly by night adult entertainment group to throw something together and demand access which has already been provided to someone else. I’d suspect the digital world makes them even more focused on control.

            Even the makers of adult PC games and the things Peter Payne brings over don’t normally go through the ESRB. They just slap their own 18+ label on it. And one of the reasons they did get the rating for S;G was so it could actually be sold in the open market.

          • Kumiko Akimoto

            Ahh I never knew.That’s pretty janky

          • KnifeAndFork

            Steins;Gate?

          • British_Otaku

            Yep. It is up for preorder now with a nice limited edition: http://www.jastusa.com/shop/steinsgate-limited.html

            I figure GameStop will get it but I don’t know how well it will be stocked in comparison to on the online store.

          • M’iau M’iaut

            Right now it is also reserveable though right stuff. They don’t always have JASTs stuff at release, but there is a savings and you can combo it with other things for free ship pretty easily.

          • British_Otaku

            RightStuf are pretty good, but I wasn’t sure whether they gave a digital copy free as well… Looking at them again, they are a pretty cheap alternative even before that Got Anime deal I oughta get into.

            It wouldn’t be free shipping for someone in Blighty, but I guess they are still awesome.

          • M’iau M’iaut

            You are pulling me way off topic here, but yes, there is a reason they are basically the AMZN of the anime world. Fully trustable and they get just about everything. There’s usually some measure of discount and the Dark Lord does deal in the realms of H.

      • shadowind

        As a European, I have to admit that I love the delicious irony that it’s rated a 12+ in Europe by PEGI and M for Mature by the ESRB in the USA! LOL

      • TheAquacharger

        Sony also bans AO games from being sold in the US. Same with MS and Nintendo. This is why Manhunt 2 had to be censored and sold half complete because Sony and Nintendo refused to let the game exist on their consoles as AO.

    • Renaldi Saputra

      it’s already M

  • Landale

    And with the complete quote now presented, as pretty much everywhere was just using at most a paragraph of all that, I can now say I was right in regards to people assuming cards were being removed. Images removed, not the actual cards.

    Censoring, sure, but not really as damaging as people were assuming.

  • RedSuisei

    From the statement, I think there won’t be any actual card removing, only that some cards whose images are too sexual will be changed to the image of their level 1/2/3 forms. If it’s true, then there’s no problem for me.

  • Nanaki

    I want to see these cards they removed.

  • Anchan

    Well, it’s perfectly understandable. Just look at Goblin on the left. http://ebten.jp/eb/p/monpiece/monpiece_card4.jpg

    • 無尽合体ブランタコブスキ

      I guess this explains everything I wanted to know

      • Anchan

        There’s more. http://ebten.jp/eb/p/monpiece/monpiece_card1.jpg
        I don’t really want to search for all the pictures now, but I think it’s safe to assume that the removed ones were balancing on a very thin line.

        • Jesse

          …I’m not really interested in this game, but yeah, there’s NO way those cards would fly without them getting in trouble.

        • AuraGuyChris

          Never mind. Remove those cards. It feels so wrong to me.

          • Leon_Tekashi

            Those are the type of cards they’re removing, nothing else. The game is fine really.

          • Sigfried Silverblade

            But not to me. That’s the conundrum. Whose opinons should matter more?

            Well, the majority, I guess.

          • KnifeAndFork

            You’re not the majority. Are you aroused by that picture?

          • Sigfried Silverblade

            Never said I was the majority. I was conceding the point to the majority.

            And, I guess I am not aroused… But I am also not bummed out…

            Some people seem to be utterly disgusted at them.
            I am not.

    • Eric Harris

      I’m guessing that “goblin” image on the right is “phase 4″? So you still get the actual goblin card just not the final card?

      • Hound

        They said they limited the images to the first 3 phases, so you probably get the phase 3 pictures for their phase 4 forms.

  • Manny Being Manny

    Censoring games like this makes no sense. The target demographic will be pissed off and its not like you’re going to bring in more of an audience anyway.

    • JonathanisPrimus

      Given this got a M rating, I suspect it had more to do with not getting banned than it does trying to appeal to a wider audience.

    • Landale

      Target demographic can’t get the game if the game can’t be sold.

      • Manny Being Manny

        Anime stuff is released in America with topless lolis no problem (see Dance in the Vampire Bund or Strike Witches). Why would this not be allowed when theres not even nudity?

        • KnifeAndFork

          You’re talking about two completely different mediums that have to answer to different guidelines and companies

          • British_Otaku

            Unfortunately, they have completely different guidelines even when the experience could easily be the same.
            Why should viewing a short clip of sex in a movie, be treated differently to have a sample of it in a game or whatever? >_>

          • http://twitter.com/puchixseda puchinri

            I think it’s maybe because of the interactive element? But I can see it from both sides.

      • Kumiko Akimoto

        They could import

        • Landale

          Importers aren’t exactly the target demographic of a localization.

    • http://epiclyamazing.wordpress.com/ AzureNova

      Not true. When it comes down to it in my opinion, its how much has been taken out or changed from the original. In this case its not much at all.

      • Manny Being Manny

        Removing 1/5th of the final card pictures for a game mainly about getting the final pictures is quite a big part of the game.

      • Zak Ledward

        It depends really. They say “removed” but it is unknown if they’re pulling a Mugen Souls and just removing the rub scene, or if they’re removing the card completely. If they’re pulling a Mugen Souls, then that’s fine, the game itself is still intact (to some degree).

        If they removed the CARD then we have a problem. Monster Monpiece has some moments where you will only get certain cards in certain places and a lot of the time you NEED these cards in order to beat majority of the CPUs in that area. PLUS if you want to make your cards BETTER you NEED to use the Ecstacy feature (the rub thing) in order to either A) Boost power B) Reduce Mana Cost or C) Add abilities. Losing the ability to do these things can SEVERELY break the game. Hopefully Idea Factory knows this already and is working to change a lot of the game to match up with the card number. However, now if they want to sell the online packs, they’re going to have to go through all those and weed through them to take out “inappropriate” cards, then adjust pull rates appropriately.

        Whatever, was happy to see it coming in English, but now that I see how much is changing, I’ll just stick to my Japanese version and laugh.

        • RedSuisei

          If you look at the comments, you might notice that the rub scenes are intact, all cards are intact, only some of them got their image changed.

          • ronin4life

            Was it “Image changed” or “Card Removed”?

          • Zak Ledward

            I see, the article says, “removed” so i automatically assumed thats what IF did. I’ll buy the game, but I’ll save my DLC money for the JPN version

    • Manny Being Manny

      People downvoting me for not supporting censorship. Thats amazing.

      • Eric Harris

        If you don’t like it don’t buy it. There is some anime in Japan that just does not fly here. And that includes soft core child porn of apparent 8 year olds in their panties with their legs spread.

        • Shippoyasha

          Fanservice titillation is still not ‘softcore porn’ though. There may be heavy sexual innuendo with some ecchi shows but it’s still not outright softcore porn. And another thing is that pure ecchi anime is a rarity. There are only 3 or 4 out of 30-40 shows in a given season. And the vast majority depict highschool aged or adult aged people. Not to mention most ecchi stuff tends to be comedies or action based. The one major loli centric anime like Lotte no Omocha actually is a pretty heartwarming family dynamic show.

          • Kumiko Akimoto

            What about komodo no jikan?

          • Slickyslacker

            It’s still within the boundaries of a “mature” rating, and suitable for Western audiences, apparently. I mean, just look at a few of the game’s cards in the imgur gallery. How many of them remind you of Rin?

          • Kumiko Akimoto

            I haven’t looked at it properly but my comment was more towards shipp’s lolicon comment.

          • chroma816

            In all honesty, people give that series a really terrible rap. Sure, the first third or so of the series is really just loli-antics (and, for those not into that, it get’s risque and probably a little weird), but the rest is about the character intentions/beliefs/thoughts and issues, character growth, and other not-so-sexual things. Sure, it never really “stops” with loli ecchi, but it’s not like the MC actually has sex with any of the girls, and everyone in-series sees Rin’s advances as wrong.

            Also, in case anyone starts trying to attack the series’ author for being a creepy, perverted guy, it’s actually written by a chick.

          • Kumiko Akimoto

            I know I’ve read the manga, I like it quite a bit

          • chroma816

            Good to hear – I haven’t met many others who’ve read it. I thought you were, like, attacking it or something.

            Too many people jump at it, mainly because of the anime and the beginning of the manga.

          • Kumiko Akimoto

            Ohh no no I thought it was kinda silly the publisher for the manga here gave it up because of questionable material but It was a pretty good read

          • chroma816

            It was very silly, but we have online translators and whatnot, so I guess I don’t really care that much. If I want the physical product, I’ll just buy the Japanese versions.

          • shadowind

            One of my exes is a huge fan of the manga and it’s actually one of her personal favorites! ^_^

          • KnifeAndFork

            Chicks are not allowed to be creepy and perverted in this world. Good to know

          • chroma816

            Like it or not, it’s a pretty true double standard.

          • Shippoyasha

            Kodomo no Jikan was a pure comedy though. It was almost like they were making jabs at fanservice as much as being fanservice itself.

          • chroma816

            The anime, maybe, but not the manga. Not towards the end, anyway.

          • Kumiko Akimoto

            Ohh god is it super depressing? I’m scared,I’m getting a fruits basket manga vibe

          • chroma816

            No, no, not super depressing hahaha. But it’s not so tongue in cheek about the loli ecchi stuff the way the beginning was.

          • Kumiko Akimoto

            Ohhh yeah I get you I’ve seen various screen shots here and there

          • M’iau M’iaut

            The problem is you are using your own definitions of softcore porn to say what isn’t softcore porn. The line IF kept seems seems clear — girls who would clearly be seen as underage, certain poses, mock blood around certain body parts — and no game play removed. If a company can do the later and avoid the hassles of the former, most will make that choice.

          • Kumiko Akimoto

            That doesn’t mean they consider softcore porn just questionable

          • Shippoyasha

            Porn is pure titillation and nothing more though. Even the most erotic anime and game content never have real sex acts and nowadays no genitalia unless the show really wants to push boundaries. Even then, they tend to be exclusive to cable/satellite programming or uncensored on disc release. Bikini level just doesn’t scream softcore to me.

            Fanservice or even ecchi is still a step or two behind pure softcore porn. There are more gradient levels in the subculture is what I’m saying, not that the titillation isn’t there. I just feel there is a heavy kneejerk reaction against sexual content like it is either porn or not porn. I can understand if the distinciton may seem hazy to non fans of risqué, fanservicey material though.

          • KnifeAndFork

            This is titillation stop lying to yourself lol. Are you going to publically defend the game to the top of your lungs when people ask what the hell are you doing you perv on the bus or train explaining that you are not rubbing them frantically to get off but rather for maximum game points? Will it matter by then? The devs know fully what they’re trying to get away with here and they’re laughing all the way to the bank. This isn’t Citizen Kane thought provoking stuff here. Relax and rub

          • Shippoyasha

            While it’s true that it may be cheeky entertainment, I think it is worth defending. I usually play games that tends to be relatively family friendly or something like Professor Layton but I don’t think it is bad getting into otaku games every now and then. Plus, games that are solely catering to a fandom should be allowed to exist. So are games that can have sexual content. I love indulging in games that push boundaries of storytelling or makes me think.

            But not every game needs to be that. There is nothing wrong with indulging in some risqué fun in gaming. I am not sure why gamers who willfully enjoy fluffy, light games have to answer for why they enjoy these games rather than aiming high for GOTY contenders all the time. Gaming is still a hobby to many people, not an all out competition or to show society how awesome we are. It’s like telling horror or gore flick enthusiasts to answer for why the greater society may get irked at their niche. It is pointless to worry about what non enthusiasts and haters may think. I don’t play games to earn social brownie points.

          • KnifeAndFork

            Please understand

      • Di_Elle

        Gamers are so desperate to play the games they hype themselves up for that they’ll make any rationalization for censorship that allows them to play the game with a healthy conscience. It’s why stuff like this still happens and will continue to happen: lack of respect for oneself as a consumer and the inability to simply hold off on a game and say “that’s wrong.”

        • Ladius

          This line of thought assumes that everyone share the same tastes, mindset and reasons to play any given game and that a feature has the same relevance for everyone, which isn’t really the case. This actually goes both way, since the same argument is used by some people against anyone who dare to support games with some level of fanservice.

          I think we should all agree on respecting each other’s tastes while acting as consumers in a way that befit our individual stances.

          Some people will skip the game because they were only invested in fanservice, or because they’re against censorship regardless of contents, or because they don’t feel it’s an interesting game regardless of censorship, or because even after the censorship they think the fanservice is too much, or because they dislike trading card games, or because the game is a digital-only release.

          Others will buy it because they like trading card games but weren’t happy with that level of fanservice, or would have bought it regardless because they’re fans of TCG, or will buy it because they like fanservice even after the censoring, or will support in order to help niche localizations even if they aren’t particularly interested in the game, and so on. There are as many ways to see a situation like this as there are consumers.

          • shadowind

            As I said before (and a lot of people seem to hate me because I said that I was willing to buy the English version and that if people wanted to play it uncensored then they should buy the Japanese version!) that if it being slightly censored means that it gets a English release then so be it, but I agree with you that a lot of the people who were planning on buying it were only going to do so for the fanservice and now that it’s coming out censored, they’re throwing all kinds of fits!

          • Di_Elle

            I do agree that we should respect each other’s tastes, and I appreciate your polite reply to what may have seemed like a hostile response to those who are looking forward to this release.

            However, I do not believe that anyone who would consider this game only after censorship should have any legitimate say in this manner. Why should my tastes have to conform to the majority? If one is so greatly concerned about the ubiquity of fanservice in this game, then he should look elsewhere. As a consumer, I feel I am entitled to as pure a localization as possible (in all media), and what this group is effectively saying is, “this game should be censored because it offends me.” If we had to account for everyone’s tastes when it came to producing entertainment, it wouldn’t be entertaining to anyone. Why is it acceptable, generally speaking, that a product clearly made for a certain audience be contorted into something that offends as few people as possible? I would never wish that upon something that fell outside of my interests.

            That said, I am particularly astounded by those who willingly blind themselves to issues of censorship simply because they want to play the game. Maybe I am in the wrong here, but since when did censorship become a non-issue? This may be just a video game depicting naked little girls, but little controversies like these highlight recurring problems in western society: primarily America’s crusade against anything remotely sexual, but also the greater paranoia that drawings of naked little girls will somehow lead to the moral collapse of society as we know it. Sure, it’s easy enough to dismiss it as a problem that cannot be solved through the lens of niche, Japanese video games, but acceptance of it will only lead to continued censorship in the future. I hesitate to use the slippery slope argument, but the video game industry in its current form is still in its infancy, and we need to set clear standards as consumers. We are particularly terrible at that, but that’s a completely different discussion.

            I understand that there are those of you who believe that having a game localized and censored is better than receiving no localization at all, but how do you contend with the censorship itself? How do you look at an act like this, which is basically a reflection of society telling you what you can and cannot personally enjoy, and be okay with it? I do not mean to ask this either rhetorically or condescendingly; I sincerely want to know, because I have a horribly difficult time understanding it.

        • Trevor Nicolaysen

          And no one will pass on a game for being excessively and inappropriately graphic? They’re probably doing so to avoid getting an extreme esrb rating anyway. The main demographic might not appreciate it, but the main demographic alone on these types of games rarely permits them to break even.

          Its not my type of game (for many reasons,) but even if it was, its risque bordering on pornographic with childlike characters. That disturbs me and a great many people.

        • KnifeAndFork

          And some people realize at the end of the day they’re just video games an as such, there are far more important things in life to worry about then the loss of some 4 yr old looking Loli that you can frantically rub her clothes off for maximum points

          • Di_Elle

            We are discussing video games on a video games news website.

            There is nothing more important than video games here, sorry.

    • Hound

      The target audience doesn’t legally exist due to the graphic nature and actions that the player can commence in with some of the cards. Banned cards include adolescent girls whose boobs can be pinched and moved, and the player must stroke the card to reveal them in their underwear.

      They limited the images available for such cards to their first few clothing sets to avoid trouble, but stated (in the article) that they kept the entire story and all game mechanics. So you can still stroke cards and pinch their boobs, but the little girls can’t be stripped to their underwear for such actions

    • MaximDualBlade

      It’s like removing balls from a Fifa game… (that was intended)

    • DarkLight

      This^I hate it when they censor stuff.

    • 40

      You make perfect sense but I think people desperate for jp games will buy it. I dunno how many that is though. Maybe the 11 that didn’t like your statement?

    • konsama

      Obviously that way the kids will be able to play a game with…still highly sexual content?

  • Ladius

    They aren’t removing game systems or compromising the story, so the changes are fine by me, just as with the Mugen Souls games.

    I imagine some fans will be against this, but on the other hand maybe people will focus on the actual game instead of drumming up controversies about fanservice. Even those who are upset about the contents being removed should consider that it could have very well been a “either this or nothing at all” scenario, since the censored version is still rated M.

    That said, I’m still on a fence regarding the game itself since I’m not into videogame card games, but I could end up giving it a try just to support the first Idea Factory International localization. It would be great to see them localizing more titles, especially otome games and visual novels.

    • Shippoyasha

      I think it defeats the purpose of a fangame if the fan content is taken out. Good for game release and all…. but not like this. Censorship may ‘make sense’ to be able to be released. But damn the circumstances. This is just sickening.

  • Roberto

    well better than nothing

  • Callonia

    Removed?
    I require links to removed cards with their removed suits for research purposes.

  • Eric Harris
    • Eric Harris

      ^^cause if that’s still in the game, I’ll die a happy lonely man.

      • http://www.unit03.net blackraen

        Yep, still in the game. They just removed the most graphic of the level 4 undressed cards (for those you’ll see the level 3 graphic instead).

        Otherwise, exact same game, so warm up your rubbing fingers and your micro-fiber cleaning cloth….

  • ivanchu77

    It´s a miracle that this game got localized, seriously, this and project x zero must have been the most surprising localizations ever.

    a shame that it got censored, but at least is nothing related to gameplay, a few videos in youtube and a couple of pics to see the missing cards and it´s more or less solved

    Will this have japanese voices?

    • KnifeAndFork

      I was more surprised with JJBA ASB and Saint Seiya localizations.

  • Tyler Beale

    So….why are they removing those images again?

    • Eric Harris

      girls who look under 10 in their panties in spread open positions just doesn’t fly in Europe or America.

      • KnifeAndFork

        Child pornography was made illegal in Japan in 1999 just 15 years ago …

    • ivanchu77

      the west doesn´t like the lolis

      • Tyler Beale

        And how old are Rom and Ram again…? I like them…

  • HellMuT

    I hope IFI doesn’t have any huge sales expectation. It’s already a niche fanservice game being released in the west with an M rating. Removing fanservice probably won’t boost sales or widen your audience.

    Apparently it’s not only lolis. Here is Rafflesia: http://imgur.com/rUut4bZ

    • Cazar

      I don’t understand how can western games get away with full frontal nudity and sex scenes but localized games need to be censored?

      • otakumike

        big pockets with lots of cash

      • KnifeAndFork

        No loli

        • Cazar

          I’m guessing you didn’t fully read the comment I was replying to.

    • ivanchu77

      Any site to see all the cards of this game? just simple curiosity :3

    • Slickyslacker

      Well, that card alone opens up a whole can of fetish material and X-rated eroge.

  • kyrt

    hell no. This is the main reason I was upset about mugen souls doing this. Now it has opened up a doorway for all other companies to do the same. I will not support this type of censorship which seems to be occurring more and more often and primarily with foreign games. We rarely see American games being required to censor content…although they have had to tone things down. I could care less what is actually censored it is more the fact they’ve censored that has pissed me off. This is getting ridiculous with more and more companies doing this. Mugen Souls, Bravely Default, Monster Monpiece, and Fire Emblem are just a few games that had this done to them and more than anything this censorship has caused some games to never even have a chance of release over here (I expect this is the reason Fate/Extra CCC has not been approved for a localization). Some people just don’t want to have to censor their games and others don’t want to take a risk of being attacked by the general public.

    The thing that is really hypocritical however is this type of content is still available in a multitude of other games. The objectification of women and the extreme violence can still be found in a lot of games but more than that we just have to look at popular culture in films and books to see this type of thing is still alive and well and not being censored. Look at the book Shades of Grey or any of the Hostel, Saw, or Girl with the Dragon Tattoo films. Even such people as Ed Boon has gone on record saying that he is forced to bow to to the whims of the esrb rating system for his mortal kombat games. This causes self censorship because although a lot of these companies might want to raise the bar they can’t due to fear of public outcry and not being able to sell their games. Even the reasoning for censoring because of young looking characters can not be used as an excuse when like in bravely default they increase the age but still remove the content. It’s not like this type of thing is banned in other mediums look at the novel lolita which is even today considered to be one of the great classics. Regardless though this is rather ridiculous and more than anything needs to be stopped before it gets any worse. The problem with censorship is not due to any one title but due to it only takes one title for censorship to gain a footing and become a norm rather than an exception

    • Eric Harris

      I agree with your generally. But the thing you have to understand are your/my options. Either have a game like this with only the most taboo imagery removed, or not even have the game at all.

      • Derp Minos

        It could had passed with all content intact. IFI is just being stupid.

    • KnifeAndFork

      Too dramatic if you want suggestive underage Hentai porn the Internet is full of it

    • shadowind

      Oh God, you just had to go and bloody bring up Mugen Souls!

      I still remember the huge shitstorm there was on here (if memory serves me correctly) about ONE bloody scene being removed and a lot of people were acting like it was the end of the fecking world (the last I checked, it was supposed to be in 2012, but I guess the apocalypse got cancelled! ^_^).

      Well guess what, Dude, people are still willing to buy games like Bravely Default (I already own the European Collector’s Edition which I love very much) regardless of whether it’s censored or not, and I’m not one of those people who throws a hissy fit because a game’s got minor censorship in the English version!

  • Eric Harris

    I think Silicon Era’s motto is very fitting for a game like this. Welcome to the unseen side of videogames. Yep, there are just some thing you will not see in the localized version!!

  • Brimfyre

    Normally I’m against them changing anything for Western release, but if it is just the loli characters then that makes complete sense.

    Can anyone actually confirm that it is just the loli’s that are being censored?

    Edit: Ah nevermind, guess I didn’t scroll down far enough.

    • Eric Harris

      there are also maybe some that are just overly sexual. Scroll down a couple comments and look.

      • Brimfyre

        Yeah it’s BS then. I like fanservice games, but not for titillation so much as much as “How far will they go?” If I know in advance they cut anything really racy, then I know exactly how far they were willing to go. Not far apparently.

        • Sigfried Silverblade

          Also, the statement says some cards will be limited to rank 1 image.
          So, they are really not going very far.

    • Manny Being Manny

      Rafflesia is also edited, and shes a big boobed character.

    • Derp Minos

      That makes sense how? I’ve seen the pictures and most of them are no worse than Fiona in Agarest 2 and Aksys didn’t censor her. Also several non-loli characters got censored as well.

  • Derp Minos

    So 20% of the game is censored? Not buying this garbage.

  • http://s932.photobucket.com/ usagi_san
    • Eric Harris

      ugh. Remove many final cards and still pay $40 for digital! Nope. If I have to play this game so bad, I’ll import the damn thing.

    • HellMuT

      Niche game, digital release only, M rating, and censoring content.

      Sounds like a recipe for success.

      • KnifeAndFork

        What gets me is this shallow game is even being localized meanwhile Capcom refuses to localize Vita Monster Hunter, Sega refuses to localize Phantasy Star Online 2, Square Enix refuses to localize Final Fantasy Type Zero, and Namco refuses to localize Tales of Hearts R and Tales of Innocence R…all games that I’d much rather play that have far more effort put into their development….

        • http://s932.photobucket.com/ usagi_san

          This is being developed by Compile Heart and published by Idea Factory, so it’s hard to compare it to those games’ situations.

          Considering that the others you’ve mentioned CAN and have published their own titles in the west. Blame those companies not IFI for taken a gamble on localising this game.

        • Lynx

          You do realize these are completely different companies, right?

          What does Capcom, Namdai, or Square have anything to do with IF?

  • Antipika

    That’s when you miss having systems that were fully hackable like the PSP so community could have patched NA/EU release with JP assets.

  • Niyari

    if it’s just loli stuff then it’s perfectly reasonable for them to do this.

  • Sigfried Silverblade

    So, lolis won’t have their last ranking images due to being too childlike.
    Ok, I understand.
    So, some other non lolis also won’t have their last ranking images, due to extreme nudity.
    Ok, I understand.

    But I hope they also understand when I say I am now hesitant to buy the game.

    • artemisthemp

      Loli’s is illegal in UK, just like it’s illegal for Woman with small breast to be in a Austrian porn movie

      • British_Otaku

        Do you have a source for your first point?

        Also, it is Australia and the ACB denied that they judge women’s ages in porn to be under 18 based on breast size though they never said how they guess either: http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/29/has-australia-really-banned-small-breasts/

        • artemisthemp

          I think Podcast nr. 3 of UK anime mention it, else you can ask Ghostlight (companies), why they removed child Fionna from the Bath minigame or ask NISA (don’t do that, Houk hate that), why they had to removed the Bath mini game in Mugen Souls

      • Troublehalf

        Loli is illegal based on the public.Basically, you show a picture of a “loli” to public and if the majority go “Yeah, that’s under age” then it’s illegal. So on, so forth. Furthermore, it was only recently changed, but girls could be photographed topless for publications…. As long as they are 16+. Now it’s 18+.

        Also, you’re confusing “Loli” and “Loli Hentai”. This isn’t hentai. There is no nudity. Therefore it isn’t illegal. Furthermore, certain publications in the UK have loli’s in and are allowed, such as “Lost Girls”.

        So, please don’t confuse the matter. Unless the loli’s are naked and showing their primary or secondary genitals, then it’s illegal.

  • Manny Being Manny

    Somehow The Witcher had fully topless cards you could collect and got an M rating… yet they are scared of having cards here without any nipples. Yeah.

    • Sigfried Silverblade

      Maybe the art style confuses them, making them think Witcher would only be played by adults for having dark and realistic charactersm while Monpiece would be aimed towards children for being colofull and cute.

    • DesmaX

      Well, The Witcher doesn’t really use that as a selling point, so it’s fine (And the more mature feel to it certainly helps. People who play these days woudn’t be surprised by those events)

      And, those censored cards they showed, just bothered me. I woudn’t buy this game either way (Don’t wanna support this kind of stuff), so I guess it’s not my problem

  • Crazy_O

    Why Europe too? Our rating is 12+
    There is enough space to sex things up a bit more or at least don’t censor it.

    • British_Otaku

      Too much work to create two versions? I know that Capcom and many other companies don’t even touch their American English scripts for releases in mainland Europe (I expect British English, but am used to “color” and organizationz or whatever).

      Whichever region, country or individual is responsible for them making the censorship call, everyone is getting dragged down together… >_>

  • AxionAzure

    Another win for censorship… well whatever, I gave up hope on that battle long time ago. Not gonna skip on games for that, we can always import anyway.

  • Kyosuke Yoshino

    Sorry but I don’t see any point to buy a censored game digitally… I’ll buy the original Japanese version instead!

  • Sentsuizan_93

    Okay, I’ll put it like this.
    I never had any hopes on this being released in NA/EU, but honestly, I’m surprised this even made it here. Digitally.
    On the front of censorship, I know censorship sucks in general. Heck I agree with you. Censorship sucks, but unfortunately, it’s needed to avoid an unnecessary AO rating, and AO = A No to retail, meaning this wouldn’t be easily available (It’s also worthy to mention not a lot of games got an AO rating). At the end of it all, there are conditions that are needed to be met in order to get the game localized. If companies disobey the recommendations by the rating board, the game wont get released. It sucks, but it’s either do the changes or don’t bother localizing. This was given a PEGI 12+ in EU, and an ESRB of M.
    If you don’t want to get this because of 18 cards out of 100+ being removed, then that’s your problem to deal with, but look at @Anchan ‘s comment, and you’ll see why the removals happened.
    Honestly, considering @disqus_Ltr2Q58JCO:disqus ‘s comment, I guess there’s little room for complaint.

    • Sigfried Silverblade

      I understand the need for this censorship.

      That does not mean I have to like it.

      • Sentsuizan_93

        Never said anything about liking the changes. Heck, I’m disappointed too. But not enough to say “Screw this, I’m importing”.

        • Sigfried Silverblade

          I’m hesitant. I know I won’t import. I need to understand the story of the game I’m playing.

          So now my only doubt is “buy or not buy”.

  • otakumike

    How would it not impact the game if you nerf a few cards by not including their final levels? The least IF could have done was censor the cards ala Nintendo’s magic curtain over tharja’s butt. Taking the cards outright seems like a mistake.

    • AxionAzure

      The curtain over Tharja’s butt ended up making it worse for them really. It looks like the cape of someone who’s coming from behind.

      • Sigfried Silverblade

        Also could make it seem like she was removing her clothes, as her hand gets hidden.

      • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

        @axionazure:disqus @sigfriedsilverblade:disqus I think you guys missed the point of that particular instance of censorship. The point was to cover up her buttcrack, not the panties.

        • Sigfried Silverblade

          Ohhh. Now I see.
          Really. I had to search up a picture and pay attention to see.
          I guess I can see what the censorship covered.

          The need for it I do not see yet, but that’s only me.

        • ronin4life

          …It took your comment for me to realise how wierd this conversation was…
          >.>;;;

        • British_Otaku

          A sign that their censorship wasn’t very effective perhaps… Off topic but Fire Emblem Awakening was set to be rated T, 12+ and so on. to get middle of the road age ratings.

          If them stepping in resulted in parents (doubtful but amusing to imagine) claiming that Nintendo slipped in even more suggestive imagery and not just people on the net, it would have been something.

          • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

            I don’t think the intent was to censor the scene entirely, just to present it more tastefully. Implied nudity isn’t as crass as someone’s buttcrack staring you in the face.

          • Shippoyasha

            I don’t see how someone’s ‘buttcrack’ is ‘crass’ at all. She is supposed to be an alluring character and showing off is perfectly in line with her personality.

            I’m really uncomfortable with this idea that any showing of skin automatically equals ‘not tasteful’.

          • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

            Oh, please. They were showing plenty of skin. She was in a bikini for god’s sake.

    • Hound

      They said that they removed the images for the fourth forms and the cards will retain the images for the first three forms.
      The final forms are likely going to use the 3rd form images.

  • zefrenchguy

    Censorship! Non, non, non! Zis is a step backwardz!!

    They have lost a buy from moi. I will get meself ze Japanese version!

    • otakumike

      Bebe is not amused.

  • Rol

    No thanks. I was really only peripherally interested in the game; A censored version even less so. While the censorship is an issue to be discussed, the biggest reason that I am not interested is that I have games like Kaizin Rumble and Transformers Legends on my phone that I can play for free along with plenty other “card collection games”. Makes me wonder about the viability of this game in a market where there a TON more cell phones than Vitas.

  • Edzo04

    ehh im fine with my more nude japanese version

  • Oltheros

    Please, nobody buy this. This amount of censorship is disgusting. Unless you like being told what is/isn’t appropriate for you.

    • KnifeAndFork

      No. Everyone buy this! Just to piss this guy off right here lol

      • shadowind

        I’m already planning on buying it myself regardless of what certain petulant people on here are complaining about it not being complete just because certain cards; mainly ones with Loli’s on them are being removed from the English release for obvious reasons!

      • British_Otaku

        I have bought games without having a system to set a message, but if it is a digital release and if I’m one of the harshest guys around when it comes to censorship in mah vidya gaems. I can’t even do it for the lols… >_>

    • shadowind

      There’s censorship in this game!?! Oh no! (I was being sarcastic for those of you who don’t know what being sarcastic means! ^_^)

  • Slickyslacker

    This naturally rings bells of Bravely Default, the censorship of which is a bit less justifiable. Of course, I’ve already pre-ordered the Collector’s Edition of it regardless.

    Ah, if only I had a Vita…

    Browsing through the comments below, I’m conflicted about a few of them. I’d much rather NOT virtually stroke a 5-year-old loli in bondage gear, as is displayed in Anchan’s post, but some of the bikini-wearing and otherwise scantily clad (such as Salamander) would have been enjoyable, needless to say. Still, I feel filthy saying even that much.

    You know, it’s almost as though Idea Factory is punishing the customer for buying the game: given that it’s a digital-only release, and everyone knows how many GBs the standard Vita memory card carries.

    (Whispers) Ah, if only I had a Vita…

  • Eric Harris

    Monster Monpiece is not coming to USA. The article title should be “IF is hiding a severely censored version digitally on the playstation network”

  • Weeb

    Why bother bringing over an ero game when you are gonna censor it? I own the Japanese version and none of the cards are extreme enough that they would forced an 18+ rating, there is more extreme content in Senran Kagura Burst than this game.

    The core game isn’t that great, the only reason for the game is the erotic content. You take out the ero and then you’re left with an average card game.

    • RedSuisei

      I don’ t remember Senran Kagura Burst having any characters that look like this http://ebten.jp/eb/p/monpiece/monpiece_card1.jpg. They definitely look older and their underwear, even the most skimpy ones, are still more reasonable than these. And we definitely don’t need to rub them.

      • Weeb

        Senran Kagura has you forcibly stripping a few 15 and 16 year old girls with full animated sequences. Monpiece has you stripping static images human-like fictional creatures.

        They are both guilty of stuff, the only difference is SK stays true to the source material and has decent gameplay.

        • Armane

          SK is the source material.

          • Weeb

            Exactly. It stays true to the Japanese release.

      • HellMuT

        Doesn’t Mirai have a costume where she has band-aids on her nipples?

      • http://zenkostickfighter.blogspot.com/ Zenko404

        Soo… You don’t remember that petanko loli-like Mirai-chan?…
        P.D: And you can take off her clothes with the touch function in Shinobi Versus.

  • HellMuT

    http://forum.ideafintl.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1281249170&postcount=143

    Here are some of the cards that are going to be censored compared with some that are not. Some more are posted in the thread.

    And some imgur album with a decent amount of cards: http://imgur.com/a/zhdPb

  • Kumiko Akimoto

    -sigh-This makes me sad, it doesn’t matter that I’m losing out on pervy content even if it was a bunch of monster guys I don’t like the idea of losing out on content period because of the suffocating morals of my country.

    • Zak Ledward

      Morals that we, 70-90% of the time don’t even uphold ourselves

  • http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/recognition/21421.html?type=4 Kashell

    The artwork made me click. The fact that it’s a card game made me click “back.”

  • Kornelious

    Well, I’ll never understand why you are going to bring a game over that thrives on it’s sexual themes and then censor it, but I’m fighting a pointless battle….So let’s fight one a lot less pointless….WHERE’S MY FAIRY FENCER F, COMPILE HEARTS!!! >:(

  • Tenshigami

    If you want to complain about censorship, write a letter to the ESRB or something. Refusing to buy the game is only going to hurt the publisher that tried their best to get this game to you no matter the cost, and you yourself when said publisher refuses to localize future games of this nature because it didn’t sell well.

    The ESRB gave this game – in its edited form – a rating of M. Without the edits, it likely was going to get an AO rating which is effectively a death sentence. Retailers would refuse to stock it and I have my doubts that Sony would have allowed it for sale digitally on the PlayStation Store. IFI only did what they had to do to make this localization possible.

    The fact this game is even making its way west is already a miracle. Don’t let misplaced resentment stop you from buying and playing a game – in english – that you would otherwise enjoy.

    And if you want to see what you’re missing, well, there’s always the original Japanese version – or the internet.

    • Manny Being Manny

      Why should I buy something I don’t support? And its not the ESRBs fault, like I mentioned earlier the Witcher had topless nude cards that only got an M rating. Its just IF being scared.

      And retailers won’t stock it anyway, its a digital only title.

      • M’iau M’iaut

        Do remember the Witcher is a PC game, without needing the extra hoop of Sony approval. And the ESRB has been quite clear that each game is taken individually. Conquest cards which are in inventory and that’s about it could easily be seen as different from cards where the game play has you suggestively rubbing the girls naked.

        • DesmaX

          The Witcher 2 was released on the X360 too, actually

          • http://www.fogalchemist.com/ caleb1993

            I have both the PC and Xbox 360 copies of The Witcher 2 and the 360 version is censored somewhat. Events such as the bath scene in the Elven Ruins shows next to nothing below the waist compared to what was seen in the PC version.

          • DesmaX

            Aw man, seriously?

            That’s a shame. You’d think that, with games like God of War being available in the consoles, they’d leave those kind of things intact.

          • http://www.fogalchemist.com/ caleb1993

            You’d think, but unless it’s American made it seems to need to be hit with the censor bar. I’m not sure why as that barely makes any sense…

          • DesmaX

            Coud’ve been Microsoft work too

      • KnifeAndFork

        Last I checked, Witcher was a PC game not available on the Sony PSN.

        And in the eyes of the ESRB, Witcher does not have images of hand drawn depictions resembling underage girls in sexually seductive poses.

        That’s the red flag here.

        So yeah anyway you don’t have to buy it. You don’t also have to whine about it either.
        And certainly not in the future when a game you do want doesn’t get localized because the publishers give up trying because people like you didn’t support localization efforts.

        As the poster said; this is all on the ESRB not the localizer so take it up with them.
        Or quit whining.

        • Manny Being Manny

          Why does M or AO matter when it comes to “Underage girls”? Is it ok for adults to see them but not 17 year olds? Its sexualized either way.

    • Antipika

      You obviously have no idea how ratings are being given and how it affects games. Have you ever read a submission form for PEGI/ESRB? The form publishers are required to fill for their game to be rated?

      This game would never have gotten anywhere near Ao, there is absolutely no full nudity and no dialogs that are explicit enough. Hell, even the EU release is freaking PEGI12…

      Granted without the censorship it would have been a borderline M (and most likely PEGI16), there would have been some controversy around the game (there will be anyway) and that’s about it.

      They mostly removed Lolis to avoid some gaming “journalism” (I mean blogs) websites like shitaku to make articles pointing fingers. (Add to the mix all that feminist BS that has been going around games lately.)

    • Yan Zhao

      Um, the game is digital only, rating dont mean jacksquat. So what if its AO, its just gona be M rated regardless.

    • shadowind

      Thank God somebody here is being reasonable (besides myself! ^_^) I’ve tried to tell these irrational people myself the same thing, but they’d rather act like whiny spoilt petulant brats instead!

      • M’iau M’iaut

        Enough. Find somewhere else to troll with the names. Final warning — take it elsewhere.

        • shadowind

          I never knew it was a crime to complain about people acting all immature and throwing tantrums just because some pictures got removed from a game and said pictures if they had remained in the English version would have definitely made sure that it would never been approved by PEGI and ESRB!

          At the end of the day, it’s just some bloody pictures and yet some people are acting like the end of the world is coming!

          • Landale

            It’s the way you’re doing it, not what you’re doing.

          • M’iau M’iaut

            Which at the end of the day does not require you to come over top with name calling. We ask any and all members of the community not be be rude when dealing with other posters, not just you. Plenty of folks have been questioning those who ‘need’ these pictures; without the added garbage.

      • XiaomuArisu

        Calling everyone brat but answering your own comment XD

  • Pythia Brixham

    I am a man who opposes censorship. I see artistic integrity infringed when something is censored. HOWEVER, I do realize that there are times when circumstances will not allow certain things to pass. I am completely fine with the censorship, because getting a game is better than getting nothing. Then again…

    I’ll just buy the English version, play through the story mode and learn how the game works, then import (when I have money) so I can get the full experience.

    • Pheria

      I feel exactly as you do, and have similar plans.

  • NanbuKaguya

    I have the Japanese version. From the list I see, most of these are actually Lolis, and their final form usually depicts them in their underwear. The only few exceptions are cards like Rafflesia who is depicted as a grown busty gal but with barely anything but some red fluid covering her nipple and down under with her tendrils looking like it’s errr…
    To be honest though, most of these censored cards have pretty crappy artwork.

  • DriftSlave

    *sigh* I’m sorry for actually wanting to play the game in full English. I really don’t mind that a few cards can’t go max lewd mode…if they felt that it was too much then they made the conscious decision to edit them.

    IF had made the decision knowing how the game could effect the press and other gaming outlets. If they did it to avoid controversy then that’s what they did, I honestly don’t blame them for it. I’m not going to whine about the game missing a few cards(levels of clothing removal)…the game could have easily not been localized at all.

    If you were interested in the game, this should honestly not effect you much at all, but if your one of the armchair opinionated peanut gallery then I’ll just whimsically ignore your response.

    • NanbuKaguya

      Well, except that several of these cards are very strong. Not to mention stripping them usually meant they gain new skills as well. So in terms of gameplay, you’re screwed too. Now, when they mentioned removing images, does that mean the cards stay but the images are gone?

      • DriftSlave

        I’ve played some the game already so I know, here is the thing, if they just removed the image of the card and kept the effects then it’s not a big deal from that standpoint…however that is speculation. I’m just not going to jump to conclusions because of this PR.

        Edit: in the PR it clearly states the gameplay is completely intact. they just edited the images.

  • DyLaN

    Wow. The amount of jumping to conclusion….

    Anyway, didn’t some ppl mentioned that its just the final level of the card image is removed but with the stats retained? I don’t see anything too big of a deal out of it.

  • Locklear93

    What it comes down to for me is very simple. If I’m aware of deleted
    content, I don’t buy the game. Doesn’t matter if it’s sexual content,
    violence, gore, whatever; as soon as I become aware that a game has had
    content removed from its original version, it’s off the table. And
    before someone asks, yes, that means I’d rather have no game at all.

    I’m not going to say my perspective is the only legitimate one, and I
    won’t judge those who buy it–but if this game absolutely couldn’t be
    released intact, then I personally would rather not have it at all.
    There is no censorship I find acceptable.

    • DriftSlave

      Man if I had this mentality, I couldn’t by any of the games I liked.

  • Max

    Considering the genre of the game and the gameplay itself, I think it’s really pointless to localize this if they have to remove that much content.
    Specially considering you can easily import the Japanese version.
    I find it a waste of effort to cut content from a niche eroge when the target audience will inmediately find out about the censorship and react poorly to it.
    It’s not like this kind of game will get a broader reach and be fancied by the casual crowd thanks to these edits.

    • DriftSlave

      gotta love the peanut gallery.

  • luckgandor

    I’m normally ok with minor censorship, but in this case, for a game that’s already aimed at adults, why they feel the need to censor it is beyond my comprehension.

  • buddyluv324

    Though I know that there are people that are against DLC ( Me personally it varies depending on the game), I think they should have those censored cards as optional DLC set at a low…LOW price ( or free) for those who wants the game fully intact. That way if there are people who might be offended by those images they can choose not to get the DLCs and for others who wants everything that the original japanese version had to offer it’ll be there for them to download.

    • Herok♞

      I would assume if they could do that then they would have left the cards in the original form seeing as backlash always happens

      • buddyluv324

        True, but again you’re missing the the fact that this could of gotten an AO by the ESRB if they did just leave everything as it was. There’s retail stores and even Sony that are against selling games of that particular rating.

        There’s also been backlash against keeping such content intact but its always towards sexual imagery. Some good examples of this is the recent Castlevania Lords of Shadows 2 “family scene,” Senran Kagura Burst, Dragon’s Crown, and a good number of other games.

        What it comes down to is a classic example of a damned if you do, damned if you dont situation. The Anita Sarkeesians of the world would just bitch and moan for censorship or not having the game release in the states while those on the opposite spectrum are gonna want for the game to be left along for the US release with no censoring. The Publisher would just be stuck right in the middle of the whole mess.

        • British_Otaku

          People bitching on the internet helped Dragon’s Crown become Vanillaware’s best seller. People talking about hometown and backstory, helped Senran Kagura make it’s mark little by little. People arguing on the internet helped Anita make a lot of money to produce Youtube videos… What was I talking about again?

          I don’t see how backlash is a problem in those cases.
          The AO thing? We don’t know for sure what rating the game would have gotten, Senran Kagura wasn’t close despite having more realistic characters (this is a factor in deciding whether violence is E for Everyone lololol funny like Mario or Kirby, or M for Mature) and actual animated sequences.

          • buddyluv324

            You’re missing the fact that there are some people who are legitimately against seeing certain content in games. They could have certain upbringings, beliefs, and other factors that shape their opinions on such matters.. Some are fairly rational and understanding while most are just bitshit crazy ( like Kat Bailey of USGamer comparing Dracula attacking and killing a family to rape or the article on Senran Kagura damaging the gaming industry). So yes any type of positive or negative buzz on a game does give that title more attention but among those are some fully thought out complaints.

            As for the possible AO rating, the ESRB gave Conception 2 for the upcoming American release an M rating. But from what I heard from that article seems like alot of that content is fairly mild. So I think the ESRB could be getting more strict with some of the recent upcoming games. In the case of MM, I wouldnt have put it past them to give it an AO if they didnt alter out the images of the cards if the ESRB was to be strict with MM as well.

  • Yan Zhao

    This is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. Isnt the “sexual content” the main selling point to this game’s target audience? Now you remove it for no reason why? Its not like you’re drawing in new player bases, and being a digital download, I doubt kids would get their hand on it easily anyway.

    I was hype when I saw the title of this article, then they dropped that bomb of information on us. Highly disappointed.

    • buddyluv324

      I highly doubt they removed some of the content for no reason. Being that Monster Monpiece has an ESRB rating of M, I would assume if they did keep everything intact for the US version, the game would of bumped up the ESRB up to AO ( adults only) meaning basically the game would not be able to be released and sold in retail or possibly in digital download form at all. A good number of retail stores are against selling AO rated games and I heard somewhere that even Sony is against releasing AO games too.

      Another possible reason is the still hot-topic of sexualization in video games. As backwards retarded as the fad itself has been getting ( largely thanks to people like Anita Sarkeesia, Kotaku, Jim Sterling, etc.) and the recent shit store that both Castlevania: Lords of Shadows 2 and Senran Kagura Burst has been getting, these pussy whipped, snowflake delicate betas would easily be all over MM, thus having the possibilty of the developer and publisher getting some bad PR their way.

  • Zak Ledward

    The best part is when you rock this game on the public bus (non-censored goodie good JPN version)

    #NOFEAR

    • British_Otaku

      Looking forward to doing that with Senran Kagura 2, I’ve already had my fill of Senran Kagura Burst. I hope Kamiya looks into doing Bayonetta on the go as well, Senran Kagura needs more competition.

  • shadowind

    Is it me or are the majority of people posting in this thread complaining about censorship coming across as whiny entitled brats or something? If you want to play the uncensored version that badly, then go and import the Japanese version while the more rational gamers like myself buy the English version and show Idea Factory International our support…

    • alixraen

      If wanting to have the same experience as players in Japan makes us whiny entitled brats, then yes, I am a whiny, entitled brat.

      • shadowind

        As I said, if you want the game uncensored, buy the Japanese version and if you want to blame somebody for the English version being censored, then I’d blame the soccer moms and the politicians in all honesty!

        • Guest

          There is a difference though clearly. Some people just want to play the game regardless…that is the way of niche JPN titles, it’s sink or sail. If sailing means you need to change your sail to suit the country your going to then It’s better than getting shot down before making it to the harbor. Alot of people rather the ship just explode before making it to the west because it isn’t JPN complete.

          • shadowind

            That’s definitely a good analogy there, my friend although it’s a crying shame that some of the people posting here can’t seem to understand that it’s better to have the game get an English release with mild censorship than no English release, and even then some people would still complain for the lack of an English release. In other words, the likes of IFI and Acquire wouldn’t be able to win.

            For example, I’d love to see both Akiba’s Trip games get an English release, but as far as I know, there’s no plans at all for them to get one, but am I throwing a tantrum or hissy fit about it? Hell no, because I have faith that there will be one and if there isn’t, that’s life, I guess…

        • alixraen

          My point being Western gamers shouldn’t have to resort to importing. I believe we deserve an equal experience.

          • Sigfried Silverblade

            Nope. You made the wrong decision when you decide to be born on the wrong country.
            Now learn japanese and import the game, as any rational person will do.

            J/K

    • DriftSlave

      It’s the peanut gallery jumping to conclusions again. Removed images?!? Boycott this GAME regardless if CERO, PEGI, and ESRB all have different regulations for the rating systems in their respective countries.

      • shadowind

        Tell me about it! I’m just grateful that I’m going to be able to buy this game in English and I’m sure that IFI will have come up with something concerning the game mechanics due to the game being mildly censored…

        • Zak Ledward

          Im curious as to the reason you found/got interested in Monster Monpiece

          • shadowind

            I came across the game via Siliconera and I liked the idea of how the game worked as well as the artwork, but at the same time, I thought this game would never get a English release because of certain artwork in the game, but now that it is getting a release in English, I’m going to buy it so I can show my support to IFI and hopefully any future releases of theirs will be uncensored…

          • Cerzel

            What utterly nonsensical reasoning. If you support this, you’re supporting censorship. You’re telling IFI that you’re okay with them censoring the game and that you’ll support them doing it. This won’t encourage them to have uncensored releases in the future, it will do entirely the opposite.

          • shadowind

            So I’m supposedly supporting censorship because I’m willing to buy a game in English even though it’s got a few images missing. If you had bothered to read my other posts (which I have a feeling you haven’t), some of them said I actually hate censorship with a bloody passion, but at the same time, I want to play this game in English so badly that I’m willing to make a compromise in this case, and if people like you don’t like me being willing to buy this game then I couldn’t care less what you and others think of people like me being willing to buy this game.

          • Cerzel

            If you hated censorship with a passion, you wouldn’t actually be supporting it. This isn’t really hard to figure out. A company is censoring a game, and you’re giving them money for doing so. That’s supporting them. That’s how it works.
            If you hate censorship, then take a damn stand. I wanted Persona 4 Arena, but I chose not to support Atlus because they region-locked it. I want a lot of games on the 3DS, but I will not support Nintendo because they are screwing me over. You don’t get to say you oppose something and then turn around and support that very thing at every chance; that just makes you a hypocrite.
            And again, by supporting IFI and buying this release, you’re telling them that this is acceptable and you will support them doing it, and they’ll continue to censor games in the future.

            Edit: Also, it’s not “a few images missing”. Of 87 characters, 17 have been censored. To put that in perspective, that’s rounded to 20%. 20% of the characters in the game have been censored. Let that sink in first.

          • mirumu

            Right, so even though you hate censorship your desire to support IFI and the game is more important to you. That’s fine if it works for you.

            Don’t be surprised that other people place different values on things though and might consider the censorship more important. They aren’t wrong, they just have different opinions. Same with the people who don’t care about the censorship at all.

      • Zak Ledward

        Not much to jump to in terms of “conclusions.” We’re getting some content cut, which makes the game “incomplete. It makes me sad that nowadays i cant hope to play a single niche game from Japan without having SOMETHING cut in terms of content

        • DriftSlave

          I don’t know bro, our taste in niche games maynot overlap but I haven’t really had this issue. Only Mugen Souls I remember had some censorship and that too was really overblown.

          The content this game is getting cut are a few highly sexualized images that could have changed the games rating. I would rather have them removed then not having the game dubbed at all. So I think it’s a acceptable loss. But if your a purest then I can’t help that either.

        • shadowind

          OMG! The game’s incomplete because IFI removed a few images which would have seriously pissed off the religious right (who I hate with a passion!) and would have definitely made sure that this game NEVER gotten an English release in the first place! As I said, I’d rather have the English release slightly censored than not have it get a English release at all! I mean, seriosuly, it’s only a bloody game, not the end of the frickin’ world!

          • Sigfried Silverblade

            I want this game. I just wished it would come with all the normal content.

            I don’t understand why you guys think I should be glad the game is coming censored.
            I am frustrated that we still need censorship.

            I believe am allowed to be glad the game is coming, and yet frustrated the game is censored.

    • Zak Ledward

      Now you come across a little prideful and upstuck. No one likes a crybaby, but no one wants to just take the punishment like a dead dog. If someone finds something they don’t like, they will complain. Also, not only those who accept societies stupid limitations are allowed to play it in English and not everyone can afford to import/have the resources to play the import.

      • shadowind

        I’ve been called many things in my time, but never “prideful and upstuck” just because I stated reasonably that if people didn’t like the English version being censored then they could buy the Japanese version while allowing more rational and calm gamers like myself to buy the English version instead.

        • Ferrick

          “while the more rational gamers like myself”

          yeah, because that doesn’t sound the least bit prideful does it

    • Manny Being Manny

      Expecting to get the full game and not being okay with a company half assing a localization is being entitled now, eh. Imagine how the industry would be if everyone wasn’t “entitled”, the companies could do whatever they wanted without any worry about backlash.

      • shadowind

        You’re entitled to your opinion as am I, but I refuse to apologise for what I said, no matter how controversial it is.

        • mirumu

          It’s not controversial. You’re just saying the same kind of thing you accuse others of saying. Rationality isn’t something you can just lay claim to, it’s something people will recognise when they see it.

    • https://twitter.com/RaiohV Raioh

      >Name calling
      >”while the more rational gamers like myself”

      Already not going to take anything else seriously~

    • Solomon_Kano

      I’m having a hard time seeing what’s irrational about consumers deciding against supporting a business decision they find disagreeable, e.g. the removal of the content in question.

      If you feel that’s fine and wish to support anyway, you’re welcome to it, but it’s certainly not an irrational thought. Not even a particularly outlandish thought.

      You’re welcome to state your disagreement and make your case for such, but I ask that you do so without the name calling (“entitled brats”). Certainly, that would be the start to a far more… rational discussion, we’ll say.

  • Yan Zhao

    I dont get why everyone think the game would go from M rating to AO magically, when its already rated M in Japan. Its not like they show actual nipples or 100% nude images. I’ve seen quite my share of nudity in video games and those were always rated M.

    Hell most WRPGs probably shows way more.

    • Ferrick

      pretty much, i can list many western games that shows boobs (albiet weirdly shaped ones too) and that didn’t get as much flak as simple japanese games that only show hips, thighs, and bikini

      • DriftSlave

        So like him you know the schematics of the ESRB rating system then right?

        • Ferrick

          of course, double standards all the way

          • DriftSlave

            So basically it’s a double standard because IF decided to remove content because they apparently did not want to give american audiences the same experience out of spite?

          • Ferrick

            You got it! :D
            aren’t you so smart

          • DriftSlave

            Yep, Im done.

          • M’iau M’iaut

            All done on this thread — both of ya.

        • Zonder88

          If games like GTA, Fable, Dragon Age, Witcher e.t.c can get away with an M rating, then Monster Monpiece is almost harmless in comparison.

          • 07thCrow

            I’m not one for censorship either, but I have to say that this is comparing two different types of nudity; clearly adult women vs. underaged-looking lolis. I don’t know much about this game, so maybe the characters are a lot older than they seem, but to the rest of the non-gaming world; the majority of these characters look like a bunch of 6-12 year olds. The rubbing and stripping their clothes off really doesn’t help.

          • Kai2591

            SUCH INJUSTICE

    • ZnTxn

      Don’t forget the loli cards they had to cut down!

      • Yan Zhao

        I can understand those at least, but there were only a few of them. The rest of the cuts makes no sense at all.

  • Troublehalf

    Boss: Guys! We’re releasing a game in the West! This game has skin showing! UNDERWEAR! Think of the children! Breasts have no place in a child’s life! So, we have to censor this game! Otherwise SJW will rape our faces!

    Ass Kissers Group: Good idea Boss! This will make sure all bases are covered! I mean, it’s not like the other cards are at all similar! They’re totally different! They won’t get offended by these!

    Boss: Right! This is the sensible thing to do. Make rash decisions and claim it was well thought out!

    Smart Dude: Why can’t we just put an option in so players can decide if they want to have them or not. Or better still, make it an award for completing the game!

    Ass Kissers Group: Don’t be stupid! People don’t like options, they like being told what is wrong and what is right! You’re stupid!

    Smart Dude: Stupid? The game has been rated M for Mature, that’s for 17 Year Olds upwards! Do you really thing that showing a bit of side-boob or cleavage is going to suddenly blow their minds?!

    Boss: ….. You’re fired!

  • brostar

    Ah, Monster Monpiece, in the words of Yahtzee Croshaw, “a shit game for twats”. :p

    (I’m joking).

    • xAtKx

      that was a quick edit

      • brostar

        Some people can’t read sarcasm. Have to point out i’m not serious to not attract the vocal compile heart fanboys.

        • Ferrick

          you should put up the sarcasm sign then

    • mirumu

      Perhaps, but Yahtzee has no taste (the exception is Silent Hill 2). His videos are great to watch, but he dislikes a lot of games for dubious reasons.

      • brostar

        I think Yahtzee likes quite a few games but he pulls focus on their flaws and critiques them hard to maintain his style. I think everyone just goes to his videos to just to hear him rag on it.

        • mirumu

          He’s pretty biased as well so I don’t even trust him to get the flaws right, but yeah, I just watch for the comedy. Always a good laugh.

  • http://epiclyamazing.wordpress.com/ AzureNova

    So I went and looked at the images that were removed, and now that it’s been clarified to me how much is missing I have to say that it is a lot. So I admit that I was wrong, but I still want to play the game.

  • Wappuli

    I’m kinda confused about this.
    They say that some card are limited to
    their lvl.3 evolution, but from what I can find on internet, all cards only have 3 pictures anyways.
    Edit. Never mind, it was Fia, dunno how I missed that.

  • http://twitter.com/matty_125 matty

    I think this is more of a reaction from IF to not get stomped out from the ESRB. The thing is, though, the industry needs the ESRB to keep it from the government clawing up its caboose, like it did in the 90s, and possibly any other protest – and looking at the public gaming climate, I don’t blame them.
    Give and take. That’s just how it’s going to be as far as the U.S. is concerned.

  • crackerjacker

    Seriously people, you guys should have seen this censorship announcement coming from a mile away when they decided to localize this game.

    No matter what, drawing children in sexual poses would not fly over here in the US no matter what. It’s a values dissonance thing; things that are A-Okay in Japan would sometimes not even be acceptable here in the US.

    Unless of course you guys thought that “Oh since this IFI localizing this game, they aren’t gonna censor it unlike what NISA did to Mugen Souls or a certain picture in Neptunia MK2 where Trick licks Ram and Rom (and I’m still trying to find this picture in my Japanese copy and I’ve plat’d the game in Japanese)”.

    Let’s face it, Western standards are just gonna be different compared to Eastern standards no matter what.

    • Jesse

      There isn’t any picture like that in any version of Neptunia Mk II.

      • crackerjacker

        that’s what I thought as well but people kept insisting for some reason that there was such a picture.

    • Sigfried Silverblade

      And I want this difference in standards to change.

      But, while they won’t change, I guess buying th game to say I DO wnat those games released in the west is better.
      As long as they keep bringing them, the chance to win against censorship exists.

      • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

        And I want this difference in standards to change.

        You’re effectively saying you want people at large to be comfortable with the idea of sexualizing underaged girls. I understand you’re referring to it in a fictional sense, but think about that for a moment.

        • Sigfried Silverblade

          Well, yes, that might be what I said…
          And I guess the implications might be to big.
          When it comes down to it, socitey does not actually accept fictional violence as mere fiction, they still see fictional violence as a beggining for real world violent acts.
          So, I guess I do understand how… touching vitual little girls can be wrong to those people.

          • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

            When it comes down to it, socitey does not actually accept fictional violence as mere fiction, they still see fictional violence as a beggining for real world violent acts. So, I guess I do understand how… touching vitual little girls can be wrong to those people.

            No, that’s not quite it, in my opinion. Fictional violence isn’t considered to be as harmful as something like this because violence in real life is harder to pull off. Just because millions of people play Call of Duty doesn’t mean that they’re all going to grab guns and begin shooting people in the street.

            However, sexualization is different. Sexual urges are far more susceptible to being influenced by external factors. People develop new fetishes all the time. And this, in my opinion, is the concern. That, if one continues to promote underage sexualization, society is eventually going to begin to accept it until it reaches a point where something that was completely inappropriate is suddenly considered okay.

            That’s the concern. That’s why people are more careful about sex. It isn’t about people being prudes, it isn’t about the western media sensationalizing it. It simply grosses people out, and they don’t want it to eventually be considered “okay”. I think a lot of the educated modern world is happy enough to admit that they like having sex.

            Also, I think people do recognize that discussing sex and its consequences, even in entertainment, can be beneficial. Look at this report for reference: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/17/mtv-16-and-pregnant-reduce-teen-pregnancy-producer

            So, you see, it’s not simply a matter of people being prudes. There are valid concerns as to how entertainment can shape society. Kids learn from entertainment more than they learn from anything else. Just as an example, I’ve heard a lot of people say they grew up to be good, generous people because comic books taught them that it was cool to be good.

          • Sigfried Silverblade

            Okay. I concede.
            If the society in general started seeing molesting children as something normal, it would be awful.
            If entertainment can change peoples perception of things, and, yes, we know it does, then, I guess it is best to not go into this territory.

            I do wonder now, how big is the problem Japan has with child molesters, since it is the nation that makes those games.

          • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

            I… think any sort of attempt to reply to this question would probably cause a great deal of controversy, no matter what one were to say, so I’m not even going to try.

          • Sigfried Silverblade

            Sorry. Was not my intention.

          • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

            No no, I’m not blaming you. It’s a legitimate question. Just… I don’t think either of us is qualified to answer it.

  • 07thCrow

    I have this sneaking suspicion that things like the storyline aren’t what the target audience really cares for.

    • Landale

      Actually Idea Factory and Compile Heart are pretty good in that regard, that’s kind of part of why the original Neptunia was successful; Fanservice alone isn’t going to sustain anything, and the first game sure as hell didn’t have good gameplay. So yeah part of the target audience does really care for it.

      • Hikari Langley

        Nah, the original Neptunia was successful because it was a new IP. Anyone can tell you the story in Neptunia isn’t going to be praised for anything. It’s more of the colorful cast in the game. As the story is completely scrambled.
        Also for the Censoring of this game, blame PEGI not the ESRB, PEGI is much, much more anal about video games content.

        • Landale

          An IP being new has nothing to do with success, or rather it has far more to do with potential failure as it has to prove itself against things that have already done so, especially if there’s not something particularly good about it. The first game’s story, specifically the characters, are pretty much what gets praised about it.
          I blame both, though primarily ESRB as it’s the one dealing with a culture I understand.

          • Hikari Langley

            For others yes, okay let’s also add in that Neptunia PS3 was involved in a bunch of collabs mostly SEGA. That also pushed the game, and got most of the publics eye. But still the story, it’s nothing great.

        • http://wiredjungle.wordpress.com/ DrakosAmatras

          The “story”, as I experienced from start to finish, was a series of “wink-wink-nudge-nudge”s and “Hey, we’re referencing this work! Get it?!”s. That was pretty much the entire “narrative”.

  • Monterossa

    I hate the censorship in the west. What’s wrong with western governments? since when that westerners are more sensitive about sex than Asians? It doesn’t make sense.

    • Landale

      To be completely honest, the ESRB exists to keep the government from meddling in games. I can’t speak for PEGI though.
      But here’s the thing, the ESRB may suck. The censorship that companies feel they may need to do, or are told they need to do, may suck. If the government had it’s hands in this shit though? Well, enjoy being able to only import some games, if any at all assuming they don’t just ban the process entirely to minimize their workload, stuff that doesn’t meet certain legal moral standards would very likely be a crime to own. You can get a censored Monster Monpiece in English, you can import the original uncensored in Japanese. In some alternate reality where we don’t have the ESRB, your ass is in jail gameless because you had any Monster Monpiece in the US. Feel free to replace Monster Monpiece here with any other game that has had to be censored or will in the future need to be, it still applies.

  • WyattEpp

    Wait, so you play a girl hunting another girl by rubbing a gaggle of other girls until they succumb to pleasure and do your bidding? Affix yuri goggles firmly to face.

  • Brandonmkii

    So do the cards in question still get the stat boosts, or ate they just unable to be upgraded? I own the JP version, so I can look at the cards anytime, but I’d hate for some of those cards to be weaker.

    • MrSirFeatherFang

      They still get the stat boosts. It’s just the picture of the girl that won’t be “upgraded”.

      • Brandonmkii

        Welll, at least that’s not as bad as it could have been.

  • Nightmare637

    eh I’m not getting this game, not because of the censorship.
    I just don’t like card games.
    but for curiosity’s sake what exactly got censored?

    • MrSirFeatherFang

      The girls in this game have evolution forms. As they go higher, it get more risqué. It seems most are done at 3 and some go to 4. So some of the 3 and 4 evolutions pictures we (in the west) will not be getting.

      The stats received upon getting to the 3rd/4th evolution will still be obtained, it’s just the picture won’t change.

      • Nightmare637

        So its kind of like that Mugen Souls thing where they took out the mini game but kept all the stat buffs. But instead of a mini game its pictures?

        • MrSirFeatherFang

          Yeah, just the removal of the “pictures”.
          I suppose it’s similar to what happened to Mugen Souls (I personally didn’t get to play that yet).

          • Nightmare637

            I see thanks. ^_^

  • RagingTiger44

    It’s a game about rubbing your vita screen to get monster girls’ clothes off. Seriously, if a person wasn’t down with premise, taking out that sort of content will NOT convince them to play this game. Personally, I’m not into card battling so I won’t be playing this. Further more I’m not down with rubbing either. I can see a broken vita screen in my future.

    These guys gotta stop trying market games to people that don’t care for what the game’s is attempting to do. The consequences of this is that now some people looking looking forward to the game will be pissed and the people who would even be offended by the “strong sexual nature” of some of the monster girls STILL don’t give a damn about this game.

    • Landale

      It’s not a matter of marketing to people. It’s a matter of being careful around the ESRB, who in turn has to be careful to avoid the government deciding it’s time to step in and control gaming. A situation that would be infinitely worse than what the ESRB causes.

      • RagingTiger44

        Ah…I forgot about the ESRB in that little rant of mine. They do get pretty anal about things like this. I figured this would merely land the game an T or M rating. No big deal. However, this does not seem to be the case if Idea Factory had to make these changes. Violence and gore reign supreme while the slightest hints of sexuality get crushed into the ground. Sometimes, the ESRB really grinds my gears. -_-

        • KuroNathan

          And honestly… I’m all for fanservice and SKB styled “plot” but having seen the pictures of the censored cards I can see why they’re getting cut.

  • James Dawson

    We can get shit like this and Senran Kagura, but not Danball Senki.

  • http://www.santashi.com/ Santashi

    I played the Japanese version, and I’d actually be happier playing it without the card stripping. The card game itself was pretty fun most of the time, albeit too easy for too long. I know the stripping aspect was a big selling point of the game, but the underage look of a lot of the stripped monsters really made me cringe.

    *awaits downvotes* ;)

  • Raijin

    Does anyone happen to have a link to the omitted characters? :3

  • Raijin

    Aside from the debate, does anyone happen to have a link to what the omitted characters looked like? :3

  • notforsale

    Am I dreaming? Is this game really going to be localized o_o”?

  • Megamatics

    SJWs Ride again… It’s not that the images are crude it’s that the art is tainted by preconceived notions from people who don’t understand the appeal.

  • Aesma

    Time to buy two. Buy the US to understand the rules of card game, buy the Japanese for the ‘complete’ version.

    …I have to import both of them anyway, it makes no difference.

  • CH3N9

    Sympathy: At least you get to play this game in English.

    Empathy: *sigh* you are not alone.

    Extra: Learn Japanese, and don’t give a ___ about censorship (In Japanese Games) again.

  • Rinkawa Erion

    I really hate it when publishers do this… =.=

  • Arrngrim

    It’s really too bad…I had hoped to purchase/play this, but censorship? No thanks. Guys…gonna have to learn to grow a pair and let that M rating sit instead of trying to bow-down to the American douchebags who can’t handle a little boobie in the games. Still pisses me off to no end that gory games like Manhunt get into the hands of children, but THE WORLD ENDS if a kid sees even a little nip in a game.

    ….Pass.

    • Landale

      American douchebags who can’t handle a little boobie in the games
      You did look into which ones are being censored right? I don’t think you did by your choice of words. Also, the insult is rather uncalled for.

  • Mormegil

    Won’t somebody please think of the imaginary children?!

    • Sigfried Silverblade

      It’s for their own good. If they do not exist, they won’t be harmed.

      Just joking, guys, I know the cards still are in the game. No need to correct me.

  • ShawnOtakuSomething

    lol its been Nerfed

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